I was thinking over what threads that could be done to help celebrate EAW's annual biggest season up to our biggest event, Pain For Pride, so I decided on this. Pretty simple how it goes: I'll post a Retro Reaction thread to each Pain For Pride in chronological order for everyone to give their thoughts on as if it had just happened. All you have to do is look over the show and give your reactions to it like you would any other FPV. So without further adieu...



LINK TO THE SCRIPT



Best Match -


Worst Match -


Favorite Spot -


Favorite Moment -


General Thoughts -


Rating -


THE LINK TO PAIN FOR PRIDE 1: http://eawfpvs.webs.com/painforpride.htm

Best Match - HRDO vs DDD was always the match I valued the most.


Worst Match - I'll go with the Fena and Chainstein gunshot match


Favorite Spot - RRS and CC 35 feet fall


Favorite Moment - Sabina winning the vacant Vixen's championship, back then it was pretty cool and Sabina and I were and always have been friends so I was happy for her.


General Thoughts -The Atmosphere for PFP 1 was great indeed, something that wouldn't happen these days on that level, but I think it had many issues on a booking standpoints and we even had guys like Tyler in world title matches, let alone the whole JIK victory. It was still pretty cool to be in the last match of PFP though closing it by going in champion. I would like to point out that there were a lot of movebacks and change of dates when it came to PFP, hell originally I thought I wouldn't be there because I was at cadet camp for three weeks, but I came back with enough time to come back and promo for the event, I don't even remember any MVM promos but then again promoing wasn't that important back then it was more chat and popularity oriented. At the end of the day, I still believe that PFP 2 is the greatest PFP.


Rating - 8.5 out of 10.

Best Match - CC/RRS was the most memorable for me. DDD/HRDO is a classic, and Imp/Game was a great feud in and out of script.

Worst Match - I'll say the parking lot brawl because of how ridiculous all of CC's matches were and how dumb I thought the feud was.

Favorite Spot - CC/RRS fall

Favorite Moment - Either RRS or Masters winning their respective titles


General Thoughts -
I'm torn between Pain for Pride 1 and Pain 4 Pride. The presentation of P4P was absolutely phenomenal, and I don't think it will ever be matched. We had a stacked card full of present and future stars. Not a single bad matchup that I can remember. With that said the GFX for PFP 1 (and EAW had in general) was better than anything else at the time, and even the video me and CC made was probably the best we were going to get then.

It's hard to ignore the obvious bad booking decisions in the first Pain for Pride like Jay said, like TA being in the main event (not even recognized as a world champion anymore) and CiC winning, which was probably just done as a ripoff of Orton's WM win a few months before at the time. Fan winning CITV is meh, but was probably the most reliable and deserving at the time, considering anyone else besides me or HBB would have been much worse, and I had just joined at the time and HBB quit a month later. DDD probably said it best about how looking back at booking affects pro wrestling, but besides improving the card most of those factors wouldn't have made a difference at the time. PFP 1 was probably the greatest show in e-feds history and might be a huge factor in why we out lasted every other e-fed at the time. XWF probably had 3 Xtrememania's in the same time we had Pain for Pride and we absolutely blew them out of the water.

DDD/HRDO would have been cool for the EAW title, with Masters challenging Jay and maybe CiC or MvM involved for the WHC.

Rating - 9 (keeping in thought the times it was written)

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Best Match - Mr. DEDEDE vs. HRDO

Worst Match - Chainstein vs. Cuck U. Fena

Favorite Spot - Rated R Shaman of Sexy and Captain Charisma's 35-40 foot fall.

Favorite Moment - I say Y2Impact defending and retaining the National Extreme Championship.

General Thoughts - What's left to say that hasn't been said? In my opinion, not the best Pain for Pride but one of the best. Most of the matches were well-written, taken into account that this was back in 2008. I regret not being here but reading the show makes me feel like I was.

Rating - 8/10

Best Match - To me, HRDO vs. DDD with Ronn being the special referee is just too good to be considered anything less than the best match of the FPV. RRS vs. CC for the Hardcore Championship is a very, very, very close second, but DDD/HRDO was just too good.


Worst Match - Chainstein vs Cuck U. Fena. You all should know why.


Favorite Spot - Captain Charisma trying to pull off an Unprettier/Killswitch off of the titantron, but RRS does the epic swerve to throw him off of the titantron and make a spot that should be remember for all EAW history.


Favorite Moment - Masters winning the title was a pretty epic moment because it seemed like the beginning of the legendary career because it was a great match where it seemed like anyone could win and even though I do not know these guys, I felt somewhat invested on this match and seeing who could come out as the EAW World Champion.


General Thoughts - I do not know how things were in the past and the script is definitely and older script if you read it with all the moves and how things were said, but this is the beginning and one, if not the biggest, reason why any of us are here in EAW right this moment. This was the first and everything after it owes itself to it because people who were in that decided to stay around because of what happened that night and forward. With that said, this is generally an epic show.

Rating - Taking in consideration the times with this show happening seven years ago and since we are rating it by Pain for Prides, I will give this one a 8 out of ten and would have given it an 8.5, but just imagining that glass breaking for the bell ringing is cringe-worthy and that Chainstein vs Cuck U. Fena match was just no.

Best Match - HRDO vs. Mr. DEDEDE


Worst Match - Chainstein vs. Cuck U. Fena


Favorite Spot - Would probably involve myself, so I'm not going to bother.


Favorite Moment - Retaining my NE Title. Extremely euphoric moment for me at the time.


General Thoughts - While the writing may not be top-notch by today's standards, the first Pain for Pride was the best live show in the history of e-feds. The atmosphere absolutely shits on everything succeeding it, and most of the matches (with a few exceptions) were actually pretty good!


Rating - Writing gets a 7.5/10, but the atmosphere gets an 11/10 and the general involvement from all parties within the show drives this spectacular, groundbreaking event into a smooth 9.5/10. Seriously, you had to be there. The atmosphere of the show makes it far superior to shows that had better writing but poor support/involvement/reaction.

Best Match - HRDO vs DEDEDE

Worst Match - Chainstein vs Cuck U Fena was a fucking disaster, the only reason this was even a feud was because Cuck U Fena was a notorious Cena hater on Y!A and Chainstein was a Cena stan with his picbase.. very over the top match

Favorite Spot - CC and RRS falling

Favorite Moment - Masters winning the chip was such a beautiful moment

General Thoughts - The start of it all, a very special moment in E-Feds indeed. An event like this was unprecedented from the whole presentation of it with the GFX, the videos, everything.. and this is a time where there was a lot of competition for EAW so I'd like to think that this pretty much set us apart. Then we got that EOW stimulus package a month later it wasn't even close. To clear up the whole JiK winning thing, I'll say that match shouldn't have been last.. Masters winning shouldve been last, but I'm not gonna say he didn't deserve the title. Was he a fuckboy who ended up failing as champ? Sure.. but u gotta understand he spent mad time making a bunch of GFX for us and he was rewarded for his contributions to EAW, and this is when promos were not what they were today so that wasn't a sole factor in determining winners of matches at the time. He was the sole reason for the aesthetic appeal of EAW which helped us stand out and attracted members. I'd say CC and RRS changed the promoing culture with their feud and to this day is my favorite feud ever in EAW. 

Rating - 10/10

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Y2ImpactBest Match - HRDO vs. Mr. DEDEDE


Worst Match - Chainstein vs. Cuck U. Fena


Favorite Spot - Would probably involve myself, so I'm not going to bother.


Favorite Moment - Retaining my NE Title. Extremely euphoric moment for me at the time.


General Thoughts - While the writing may not be top-notch by today's standards, the first Pain for Pride was the best live show in the history of e-feds. The atmosphere absolutely shits on everything succeeding it, and most of the matches (with a few exceptions) were actually pretty good!


Rating - Writing gets a 7.5/10, but the atmosphere gets an 11/10 and the general involvement from all parties within the show drives this spectacular, groundbreaking event into a smooth 9.5/10. Seriously, you had to be there. The atmosphere of the show makes it far superior to shows that had better writing but poor support/involvement/reaction.

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Best Match - HRDO vs DEDEDE

Worst Match - Chainstein vs Cuck U Fena was a fucking disaster, the only reason this was even a feud was because Cuck U Fena was a notorious Cena hater on Y!A and Chainstein was a Cena stan with his picbase.. very over the top match

Favorite Spot - CC and RRS falling

Favorite Moment - Masters winning the chip was such a beautiful moment

General Thoughts - The start of it all, a very special moment in E-Feds indeed. An event like this was unprecedented from the whole presentation of it with the GFX, the videos, everything.. and this is a time where there was a lot of competition for EAW so I'd like to think that this pretty much set us apart. Then we got that EOW stimulus package a month later it wasn't even close. To clear up the whole JiK winning thing, I'll say that match shouldn't have been last.. Masters winning shouldve been last, but I'm not gonna say he didn't deserve the title. Was he a fuckboy who ended up failing as champ? Sure.. but u gotta understand he spent mad time making a bunch of GFX for us and he was rewarded for his contributions to EAW, and this is when promos were not what they were today so that wasn't a sole factor in determining winners of matches at the time. He was the sole reason for the aesthetic appeal of EAW which helped us stand out and attracted members. I'd say CC and RRS changed the promoing culture with their feud and to this day is my favorite feud ever in EAW. 

Rating - 10/10

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Best Match - CC/RRS was the most memorable for me. DDD/HRDO is a classic, and Imp/Game was a great feud in and out of script.

Worst Match - I'll say the parking lot brawl because of how ridiculous all of CC's matches were and how dumb I thought the feud was.

Favorite Spot - CC/RRS fall

Favorite Moment - Either RRS or Masters winning their respective titles


General Thoughts - 
I'm torn between Pain for Pride 1 and Pain 4 Pride. The presentation of P4P was absolutely phenomenal, and I don't think it will ever be matched. We had a stacked card full of present and future stars. Not a single bad matchup that I can remember. With that said the GFX for PFP 1 (and EAW had in general) was better than anything else at the time, and even the video me and CC made was probably the best we were going to get then.

It's hard to ignore the obvious bad booking decisions in the first Pain for Pride like Jay said, like TA being in the main event (not even recognized as a world champion anymore) and CiC winning, which was probably just done as a ripoff of Orton's WM win a few months before at the time. Fan winning CITV is meh, but was probably the most reliable and deserving at the time, considering anyone else besides me or HBB would have been much worse, and I had just joined at the time and HBB quit a month later. DDD probably said it best about how looking back at booking affects pro wrestling, but besides improving the card most of those factors wouldn't have made a difference at the time. PFP 1 was probably the greatest show in e-feds history and might be a huge factor in why we out lasted every other e-fed at the time. XWF probably had 3 Xtrememania's in the same time we had Pain for Pride and we absolutely blew them out of the water.

DDD/HRDO would have been cool for the EAW title, with Masters challenging Jay and maybe CiC or MvM involved for the WHC.

Rating - 9 (keeping in thought the times it was written)

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Best Match - Me vs. HRDO. Shit was fuccin cash. Though I gotta give a shoutout to CITV, CC vs RRS and Imp vs Game for also being dopeass joints. 


Worst Match - Chainstein vs Cuck U. Fena solely because of the whole gunshot thing. Guess thats what I get for having CC write it. The feud was retarded too, but I wrote that so I take blame for simply applying their admittedly stupid characters. 


Favorite Spot - Ummm the one that sticks out the most to me is CC and RRS being sent off the tron and being knocked the fucking fuck out. Since it was a hardcore title match it was a cool twist how the match could continue afterwards. Really exemplified the competitive nature of their epic feud.


Favorite Moment - Probably the ''favorite'' moment is Masters winning the title because of how glorious and celebrated it was at the time. My personal favorite might be a bit diff, but Masters winning the title was like Tre making it to the PFP main event and winning the world title. Just a guy youd love to see do well actually doing well.


General Thoughts - The reason why there are people who believe PFP 1 was the greatest PFP of all time was because it had the greatest atmosphere of all time of any show I've been it. PFP was the show that separated EAW from every other fed immediately. Everyone who was anybody was there, the chatroom had an unbelievable amount of people (definitely the most people we've ever had for a show in EAW history) and it was so thoroughly promoted (and remember, EAW didnt run under as tight of a schedule as it does now). Its a show I won't forget anytime soon.


Rating - I'm giving these things grades under the PFP scale. I'll grade under a curve and dismiss certain things like grammar and writing style because feds were a different time back then and give it a 8.5/10, and this is me actually being critical and not giving it a 9/10 like FPVs automatically get these days from people. The booking had a few things left to be desired. Me vs HRDO probably should have been for a title or higher on the card, WWEFan despite winning CITV was never close to the best fedder, JIK winning is in retrospect an anticlimactic ending as well just because he didnt really do anything much after that. He didnt go into the HOF or prove to be a great World Champ. Of course from a pro wrestling perspective, that stuff kind of effects the booking. Mike McFucktard can win the NBA title and disappear and that wont make the NBA Finals any less epic, but in wrestling its kind of different. This show was a great show, it can compete with a lot of the other PFP's in many aspects and was ahead of its time for sure from a GFX standpoint, buildup standpoint and PFP 1 is the initial reason why PFP's transcend any other fed show in history. The definition of Instant Classic. 


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