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Carlos Rosso Voltage
Posts : 1619 Age : 39 Hailing From : Baton Rouge, Louisiana
| Subject: What is your unpopular EAW opinion? May 21st 2015, 6:09 pm | |
| Title.
Can be about anything related to EAW, storylines, promos, whatever. |
| | | Mr. DEDEDE EAW Hall of Famer
Posts : 3518 Age : 34 Hailing From : The Gay Meat Community Status : #LoveWins
| Subject: Re: What is your unpopular EAW opinion? May 21st 2015, 6:17 pm | |
| I'll probably be looked at as an egomaniac asshole for this but ah fuck it ill say it one time and never again; I'm the biggest reason EAW has gotten this far. Yup thats my unpopular EAW opinion. It'd be impossible for most of you to truly understand even if you agree with this, so I won't bother to explain. Not taking credit from anyone else who's busted their ass for EAW, but no one's bent over backwards more and helped mold this place more than me and likely no one ever will. Not that its a competition though, we just here to have fun at the end of the day. |
| | | J-Dynasty 2? Showdown
Posts : 2747 Age : 32 Hailing From : Scarborough Ontario Status : I'm out, for now. I imagine my return, but if not, it was good times overall. Much love. J.
| Subject: Re: What is your unpopular EAW opinion? May 21st 2015, 6:51 pm | |
| - Mr. DEDEDE wrote:
- I'll probably be looked at as an egomaniac asshole for this but ah fuck it ill say it one time and never again; I'm the biggest reason EAW has gotten this far. Yup thats my unpopular EAW opinion. It'd be impossible for most of you to truly understand even if you agree with this, so I won't bother to explain. Not taking credit from anyone else who's busted their ass for EAW, but no one's bent over backwards more and helped mold this place more than me and likely no one ever will. Not that its a competition though, we just here to have fun at the end of the day.
Shouldn't be an unpopular opinion, if it is. All things together in the grand scheme of what EAW is and ALL facets, you have put in the most into EAW as a combination of managerial roles, leadership and as an efedder, without rival. Before anyone tries to say this contradicts anything I've ever said, whenever the GOAT circle or asking me if I'm the best comes up, I think of it on a pure promoing, characters and EAW achievements mindset, which is what leaves room for greater opinion and why a concept of a circle could even exist. -I didn't create the circle either, so don't come at me about that too if your one of the people who hate the term or the idea of the circle.- Take HHH for example, though even that's sort of weak since DDD is above HHH level EAW wise when it comes to just as an efedder, HHH at the end of the day will be over any other WWE superstar work wise due to NXT and his eventual takeover of WWE, but people wouldn't use that to say he's over Stone Cold, HBK, Rock, Hogan and them as a wrestler, because they separate those things, and that's how I think in this case as well. I do disagree with that last sentence though, it is a competition, it's just competitive fun/writing as a hobby rather than employment. People shouldn't get bent out of shape about it-though naturally people do since we're humans(it's the level of butthurtness and all that which decides when people go too far and separate from others.), then again in general in life you shouldn't get too bent out of shape over anything, because crying and being sour isn't a good way to go through life. |
| | | VENTURA.
Posts : 3410 Age : 40 Hailing From : The Underground Status : Just.....
| | | | TLA Voltage
Posts : 3007 Hailing From : Where they ain't want me to be #ThaHall Status : Bein' a badder hombre than ever before
| Subject: Re: What is your unpopular EAW opinion? May 21st 2015, 8:01 pm | |
| - Mr. DEDEDE wrote:
- I'll probably be looked at as an egomaniac asshole for this but ah fuck it ill say it one time and never again; I'm the biggest reason EAW has gotten this far. Yup thats my unpopular EAW opinion. It'd be impossible for most of you to truly understand even if you agree with this, so I won't bother to explain. Not taking credit from anyone else who's busted their ass for EAW, but no one's bent over backwards more and helped mold this place more than me and likely no one ever will. Not that its a competition though, we just here to have fun at the end of the day.
This will probably sound like I am taking shots, but I wish you would explain cuz tbh I'm not sure what you do here. I'm not taking shots tho I'm just honestly curious what you do as Chairman. |
| | | Mstislav Voltage
Posts : 2662 Age : 28
| Subject: Re: What is your unpopular EAW opinion? May 21st 2015, 8:29 pm | |
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| | | Impact EAW Hall of Famer
Posts : 2487 Age : 27 Hailing From : The Upper Room Status : You broke the rules you can't break.
| Subject: Re: What is your unpopular EAW opinion? May 21st 2015, 9:04 pm | |
| Norman Hellion is average, and got pushed mainly due to the advent of his character rather than how he portrays it and the substance of his content.
I don't see how it's an unpopular opinion at all that DDD has done the most for EAW. I strongly feel he's EAW's most pivotal all-time figure. You can't argue with his body of work or the longevity of his tenure.
I think there should be a greater emphasis on getting shows up on time, and while I respect all of the writers, I think not having shows live has been a detriment to EAW's consistency. Of course, in order to have shows live on a weekly basis, you need people to participate in the chat.
I really think "elite" is just as unoriginal and hackneyed as "extreme," but with zero tradition behind it, making it redundant.
I don't think "Triple Threat" is all that good of a name for an FPV.
Most people here are good at creative writing, but many aren't actually all that good at English. In any given promo, I can point out several mistakes with transitions, conjunctions, awkward contractions, and blatant misuses of words that probably wouldn't be accepted in a class. Of course, I don't really think that should be the objective or take precedence; just an observation.
I vehemently disagree with the idea of giving "fresh faces" opportunities without them first and foremost working for it. If a new guy explodes on the scene, I see no reason not to push them, but you shouldn't undermine the efforts of people who are accomplished whose content remains superior all because they've been around for a long time and certain others haven't. I sometimes feel like writers try to manufacture main eventers rather than allow them to organically develop for this very reason. It's disappointing. |
| | | #KimboLivesMatter
Posts : 2027 Age : 26 Hailing From : portland Status : I'M A FUNNY GUY
| Subject: Re: What is your unpopular EAW opinion? May 21st 2015, 9:09 pm | |
| Ventura is one annoying mother fucker. |
| | | Norman Hellion
Posts : 130
| | | | Impact EAW Hall of Famer
Posts : 2487 Age : 27 Hailing From : The Upper Room Status : You broke the rules you can't break.
| Subject: Re: What is your unpopular EAW opinion? May 21st 2015, 9:43 pm | |
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| | | TLA Voltage
Posts : 3007 Hailing From : Where they ain't want me to be #ThaHall Status : Bein' a badder hombre than ever before
| Subject: Re: What is your unpopular EAW opinion? May 21st 2015, 9:47 pm | |
| EAW match results should be based strictly on weekly promo performance, not storyline or reputation. Storylines should be written with multiple diverging paths taking into account all possible outcomes.
People should not have to react during live shows.
Actually I'm against live shows in general. One of the biggest things I've noticed about the EAW chat is how little people actually talk about EAW. That's not a bad thing, there aren't that many hours in a day to spend online chatting so people should spend them how they want.
People who don't promo regardless of having a good reason or not, should not win the match they didn't promo for.
I agree with Imp about "Triple Threat" not being that great of a name. I like Extreme better than Elite also but I was under the impression Elite was still a storyline, but maybe I'm wrong.
Writing quality is irrelevant when it comes to making a good promo. The focus should be on entertaining or telling a good story using your character.
Show writers should be penalized for late shows especially if they are consistently late.
There should be less of a focus on lengthy segments and matches during shows. Again there are only so many hours in a day and sometimes it feels like writers are using 500 words where 10 would have worked.
Pic bases shouldn't be retired.
Basically I should never have any kind of authority in EAW because of how many unpopular opinions I have. |
| | | ThePizzaBoy Dynasty
Posts : 1073 Status : Pizza Turns Cold
| Subject: Re: What is your unpopular EAW opinion? May 21st 2015, 9:54 pm | |
| Mostly just that results could be posted faster.
I also kind of hate how WMW is/was/has gone down as far as in-arguing and pretty much everyone discrediting it goes. I don't know, I had fun with it, and it got written off pretty quickly. Maybe it deserved it, but the fact that I'm talking about it in past-tense can't be a good indication of anything.
Pizza Boy sucks. What a jobber that guy should be. |
| | | Norman Hellion
Posts : 130
| Subject: Re: What is your unpopular EAW opinion? May 21st 2015, 10:14 pm | |
| - Y2Impact wrote:
Damn thats pretty spiffy. I have one that looks just like it. But in all seriousness, Tyler is a phenomenal promoer, as are you. Yes, you could easily make a case for him winning it. He's a two time WHC for a reason. But in the end I won it. Did i expect it? Maybe not because my character was still rather new for the first half of 2014. Not to mention guys like Senn, DDD, and Tyler were also nominated and I have nothing but respect for them and their promos. Your problem shouldnt be with me, since the board voted on it. But you can continue to take shots at me and my promos if that helps you sleep at night. Besides, I know some people hate my promos, awesome. I also know some people who like my promos. Also awesome. Thats the beauty of opinions. Im just here to have a fun time after all and personally I wouldnt call someone an average promoer, since its rather disrespectful to the work and effort they put in. I guess I am just a believer in the saying treat others as you want to be treated. I just felt like getting this off my chest. I have no ill will towards you, or anybody in EAW for that matter since I enjoy the EAW community. I dont want to start an argument either. So I wont reply again. You have my word. All I have left to say is good luck against Charlie this Saturday. Ive been enjoying the feud. |
| | | Impact EAW Hall of Famer
Posts : 2487 Age : 27 Hailing From : The Upper Room Status : You broke the rules you can't break.
| Subject: Re: What is your unpopular EAW opinion? May 21st 2015, 10:18 pm | |
| I wasn't trying to take a shot at you as a human being, I'm sure you're wonderful. I disagree that it's disrespectful to state your honest opinion. Being disrespectful would be concealing how you truly feel to keep up appearances, and I don't do that. Whatever the case, best of luck. |
| | | Anderson.
Posts : 1530 Age : 25 Hailing From : Toronto, Ontario, Canada Status : Answers.
| Subject: Re: What is your unpopular EAW opinion? May 21st 2015, 10:37 pm | |
| I am the best promoer in EAW.
I am the greatest of all time.
Liam Catterson is vastly underrated.
HBB shouldn't be in the GOAT circle if no one calls him the GOAT.
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| | | VENTURA.
Posts : 3410 Age : 40 Hailing From : The Underground Status : Just.....
| Subject: Re: What is your unpopular EAW opinion? May 21st 2015, 10:38 pm | |
| - xkimbo wrote:
- Ventura is one annoying mother fucker.
Just because I don't accept your trolling, doesn't make me one |
| | | Mr. DEDEDE EAW Hall of Famer
Posts : 3518 Age : 34 Hailing From : The Gay Meat Community Status : #LoveWins
| Subject: Re: What is your unpopular EAW opinion? May 21st 2015, 10:40 pm | |
| - J Dynasty wrote:
- Mr. DEDEDE wrote:
- I'll probably be looked at as an egomaniac asshole for this but ah fuck it ill say it one time and never again; I'm the biggest reason EAW has gotten this far. Yup thats my unpopular EAW opinion. It'd be impossible for most of you to truly understand even if you agree with this, so I won't bother to explain. Not taking credit from anyone else who's busted their ass for EAW, but no one's bent over backwards more and helped mold this place more than me and likely no one ever will. Not that its a competition though, we just here to have fun at the end of the day.
Shouldn't be an unpopular opinion, if it is. All things together in the grand scheme of what EAW is and ALL facets, you have put in the most into EAW as a combination of managerial roles, leadership and as an efedder, without rival.
Before anyone tries to say this contradicts anything I've ever said, whenever the GOAT circle or asking me if I'm the best comes up, I think of it on a pure promoing, characters and EAW achievements mindset, which is what leaves room for greater opinion and why a concept of a circle could even exist. -I didn't create the circle either, so don't come at me about that too if your one of the people who hate the term or the idea of the circle.- Take HHH for example, though even that's sort of weak since DDD is above HHH level EAW wise when it comes to just as an efedder, HHH at the end of the day will be over any other WWE superstar work wise due to NXT and his eventual takeover of WWE, but people wouldn't use that to say he's over Stone Cold, HBK, Rock, Hogan and them as a wrestler, because they separate those things, and that's how I think in this case as well.
I do disagree with that last sentence though, it is a competition, it's just competitive fun/writing as a hobby rather than employment. People shouldn't get bent out of shape about it-though naturally people do since we're humans(it's the level of butthurtness and all that which decides when people go too far and separate from others.), then again in general in life you shouldn't get too bent out of shape over anything, because crying and being sour isn't a good way to go through life. What you said was very very well put and I do appreciate the props you gave me. I just meant it wasnt a "who does more for EAW" competition. But yes EAW is a competition in terms of fedding wise, although I've excluded myself sometimes and over exerted myself other times in the competitive aspect (whether it be i book myself doing a risky job to a noob or in the past when id try to push me being the GOAT and stuff like that). Also I do take the idea of EAW being super competitive a bit loosely these days because when you think about it, decision makers can make or break and almost anyone can become it if they try. DEFINITELY NOT A DISS but look at Genesis, he wasn't here last year and now he's rising up the ranks to becoming a decision maker in EAW. It's less professional and more peer run, and its always been although we've had talented individuals running this place as fedders and as handlers. For instance, if MK booked your whole career Im not sure how well you would have fared in EAW (NOT A SHOT AT MK, OR YOU) just because he had no idea how to book u when u were on SD. And of course if Banks could have decided Cys whole career, Cy would be a 5 time world champ. But nonetheless when you look at things like promoing and consistency I guess that's where consensus opinion, personal opinion and whatnot play a big factor. It is ambiguous, is all, in terms of how seriously we should take the competitive aspect of EAW. |
| | | Jamie O'Hara Voltage
Posts : 1640 Age : 30 Hailing From : Melbourne, Australia Status : Dejected. Inspired.
| Subject: Re: What is your unpopular EAW opinion? May 21st 2015, 11:13 pm | |
| I'll be up there in the end. Like, DDD, Jay, Robbie, Imp level assuming the Fed remains alive long enough. |
| | | Anderson.
Posts : 1530 Age : 25 Hailing From : Toronto, Ontario, Canada Status : Answers.
| Subject: Re: What is your unpopular EAW opinion? May 21st 2015, 11:17 pm | |
| - Jamie O'Hara wrote:
- I'll be up there in the end. Like, DDD, Jay, Robbie level assuming the Fed remains alive long enough.
You will. |
| | | J-Dynasty 2? Showdown
Posts : 2747 Age : 32 Hailing From : Scarborough Ontario Status : I'm out, for now. I imagine my return, but if not, it was good times overall. Much love. J.
| Subject: Re: What is your unpopular EAW opinion? May 21st 2015, 11:32 pm | |
| There is much truth to that DDD, that is stuff to be taken into consideration as well, but we as a community also take that in mind when it comes to giving credit to HRDOs and HBBs whose accomplishments don't always go with how well they worked and what they offered due to stuff like HBB being misused in early eras and HRDO in general holding himself back. But yeah, what you said has much weight.
I agree with Imp about the elite, triple threat and fresh faces stuff.
I do want to say though, I do think voicing your opinion is fine, but you are getting quite excessive Imp and it could be considered a bit disrespectful. It's fine to say Tyler Parker should of won promoer of the year and have/voice your opinion, I think I myself voted for RoV or Lannister-though I like Norman's promos-, but I think it's kind of transparent that your displeasure for Tyler not winning is what fuels you to post that statement about Norman-the one who did- and that trophy thing is borderline obnoxious. |
| | | Yoshikage Eto
Posts : 1853 Age : 25 Hailing From : Arashiyama, Kyoto, Japan Status : Time for the greatest explosion!
| Subject: Re: What is your unpopular EAW opinion? May 21st 2015, 11:36 pm | |
| I get hate every time I speak
El Landerson is fucking stupid
Me not being on the Triple Threat card is sad |
| | | Anderson.
Posts : 1530 Age : 25 Hailing From : Toronto, Ontario, Canada Status : Answers.
| Subject: Re: What is your unpopular EAW opinion? May 21st 2015, 11:40 pm | |
| Norman is a monster on the promo page, no pun intended. Tyler is as well. You can't go wrong picking any of them. |
| | | Impact EAW Hall of Famer
Posts : 2487 Age : 27 Hailing From : The Upper Room Status : You broke the rules you can't break.
| Subject: Re: What is your unpopular EAW opinion? May 21st 2015, 11:44 pm | |
| - J Dynasty wrote:
- I do want to say though, I do think voicing your opinion is fine, but you are getting quite excessive Imp and it could be considered a bit disrespectful. It's fine to say Tyler Parker should of won promoer of the year and have/voice your opinion, I think I myself voted for RoV or Lannister-though I like Norman's promos-, but I think it's kind of transparent that your displeasure for Tyler not winning is what fuels you to post that statement about Norman-the one who did- and that trophy thing is borderline obnoxious.
Yeah, I agree. In hindsight, not my best decision and I apologize for the trophy thing. However, I wouldn't mind if Robbie or Lannister/Ken won, hell I think it would've been fine if you won again honestly. Just my opinion on this particular case. |
| | | TLA Voltage
Posts : 3007 Hailing From : Where they ain't want me to be #ThaHall Status : Bein' a badder hombre than ever before
| Subject: Re: What is your unpopular EAW opinion? May 21st 2015, 11:51 pm | |
| Awful lotta good ol' boys 'round these parts. |
| | | Marco Voltage
Posts : 1863 Age : 30 Hailing From : Lexington, Kentucky Status : Blah Blah Blah
| Subject: Re: What is your unpopular EAW opinion? May 21st 2015, 11:56 pm | |
| I feel like most people's accomplishments were just given due to circumstance rather than just pure work ethic and promoing ability. (talking about myself) |
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