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Not sure if this was an opinion that is shared with others but I felt the dWo storyline was a waste of time...I am not complaining, I just felt it was mehish
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Live shows should only be for FPVs. I hate when writers always force live shows on the crowd/community. And as a writer, last thing I want to do every Saturday, after taking 2-3 hours to write the show, is take another 2-3 to post the damn thing. I can only imagine what it's like for a roster member to be forced into reading something for 2-3 hours that they could do on their own time. FPVs are different due to the stipulations and natural forces being held to a higher degree... but when it comes to the weekly shows. A lot of that can be read on your own and take in what information you want.


WMW should not exist, and all the resources implemented into WMW should go to this Battleground-esque brand. EAW needs that more than an efed inside of an efed. 
Couldn't agree more. Tbh, I like Live Shows, I will participate in them, but I feel like it adds some flavour with it being FPV exclusive. I remember when there was talk about it being tradition but to be honest, I would prefer the shows itself to be posted only and the FPV to be chat exclusive. Kinda like how I'll watch PPVs and read RAW
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 There should be an AWF-esque Battleground brand. There are too many people not getting booked or just floating around without storyline, and that's due to the size of the roster. It is impossible to book 6-7 matches a week on Showdown/Voltage/Dynasty each, all the while having them all make sense.

WMW should not exist, and all the resources implemented into WMW should go to this Battleground-esque brand. EAW needs that more than an efed inside of an efed.
The hype has died out and it seems much more like a chore to me now. It's only surrounded by controversy. This is nothing against Steele, Tre, or anyone else involved with it. I'm just looking out for the long-term stability of EAW. And I think it is only a distraction and a bad allotment of resources (Yes, writers are efed resources.) We need to spend as much as we can weekly on developing EAW storylines, EAW characters... For example, I can't book the likes of Salot, Eclipse Diemos, and J.D. Damon in feuds weekly. So if we had a Battleground-esque brand, I could not only avoid them doing nothing, we can build up those characters as well. The more developed characters, the more satisfying experience for everyone involved. And more satisfied people in EAW, the better the stability and longevity of EAW will be.
I agree with this.
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I think we need a new Voltage writer due to the fact that Robbie consitantly can't upload before Wednesdays on a show that's supposed to be on Sundays
Keller you shut the fuck up. No one give's a fuck what you think about Robbie or his shows, and I'm not sure if you were trying to spell "constantly" or "consistently" but you spelled both wrong. Shut the fuck up right now. Don't fuck with Ryan Savage.
Refer to my first post about how I get hate for speaking my mind
"Speaking your mind" isn't okay when all you say is dumb ass shit. Shut up.
Speaking my mind is completely fine. I don't think you remember, but the first amendment is "Freedom of Speech" I can say whatever I want. Now politely quit riding my dick, thank you.

Remember freedom of speech is not exclusive to you. You can say whatever you want and we can respond however we want.
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I think the people who constantly bitch about not getting "what they deserve" should be at the back of the line for anything. I hate when people use the word "deserve," you don't deserve a god damn thing, bunch of entitled little bitches.
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People who are always trying to start shit with others shouldn't even be in EAW.
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Just in case there was any confusion, I have the utmost respect for all of the people whose opinions I've expressed disagreement with, especially Ken whose writing, promos, and all-around character in and out of scripts I greatly appreciate and enjoy.

I'd like to add that I think if a show is excessively late as Voltage has been (though I forgive Robbie, I'm not going to hold that against him when you take into account his credentials and overall consistency as a writer throughout the annals of EAW's history), you should do summarized results describing what happened to make everything easier for everyone. I'm not sure if this is an unpopular opinion, and I certainly don't think this should be a consistent occurrence, but it should be considered in the future if something like this happens on any brand.
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Most people in EAW are too scared to be honest about their opinions of EAW or other people in EAW. It's a byproduct of the attitude required to be successful in e-feds. People look at the staff and veterans, how they talk, how they act, what their beliefs are and they copy them passing it off as if that's what they actually believe. 

They do this for several reasons. First, to fit in. If you are new and post dissenting opinions from the established norm you will end up like Kerry Keller. You will be rejected by the veterans and their sheep who play follow the leader. Second, to get ahead. As much as people want to argue about writing quality in promos, entertainment, boring gimmicks, etc, as far as I can tell there is only one real way to succeed in EAW. The writers have to like you more. Third, self-preservation. This one is a bit self-delusional because I doubt that anyone is actually going to get fired for this. But in the coward's mind they know they won't be strong enough to defend themselves in an actual argument, so they play it safe. They take the easy route, a phony route that allows them to stay in their comfort zone.

I have a hard time trusting most people here because it is impossible to tell who is being real and who is just playing politics to get ahead. I look at this thread and the only people posting anything relevant is the long-time veterans like DDD, Jay, and Imp. Everyone else is either posting jokes, opinions that aren't unpopular at all (like the shows being up on time), or minor complaints that nobody cares about.

tl;dr: People should stop holding back.
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Most people in EAW are too scared to be honest about their opinions of EAW or other people in EAW. It's a byproduct of the attitude required to be successful in e-feds. People look at the staff and veterans, how they talk, how they act, what their beliefs are and they copy them passing it off as if that's what they actually believe. 

They do this for several reasons. First, to fit in. If you are new and post dissenting opinions from the established norm you will end up like Kerry Keller. You will be rejected by the veterans and their sheep who play follow the leader. Second, to get ahead. As much as people want to argue about writing quality in promos, entertainment, boring gimmicks, etc, as far as I can tell there is only one real way to succeed in EAW. The writers have to like you more. Third, self-preservation. This one is a bit self-delusional because I doubt that anyone is actually going to get fired for this. But in the coward's mind they know they won't be strong enough to defend themselves in an actual argument, so they play it safe. They take the easy route, a phony route that allows them to stay in their comfort zone.

I have a hard time trusting most people here because it is impossible to tell who is being real and who is just playing politics to get ahead. I look at this thread and the only people posting anything relevant is the long-time veterans like DDD, Jay, and Imp. Everyone else is either posting jokes, opinions that aren't unpopular at all (like the shows being up on time), or minor complaints that nobody cares about.

tl;dr: People should stop holding back.
I agree with these things. The way it is for me is I speak my mind, and then people think because I point out one negative thing about someone that I'm "disrespecting" them. This place is for wrestling lovers who wanna have fun. I wanna have fun, but I keep finding less fun because of trolls like Venom or Stark. Or people who just want to insult me and don't stay in their own business. If I had a question for Charlie Scene, I'd ask Charlie Scene, but now, because I have a different opinion than him, I get hate from everyone who likes him too. 

I'm a member of this community too. And I think I at least want a BIT of respect. I've been here for a little more than half a year and I've survived all the hate I get. I don't think I DESERVE anything. More like I want to be accepted and I want for you guys to like me, if stating my opinion invokes you to not like me, then it's simple; DON'T TALK TO ME. I've tried to make friends with Charlie, I've tried to make friends with all the people who hate me, I know that I should ignore it, but I'm cornered by everyone who just wants to get me down because my opinion is different than theres. It's just fucking maddening. 

I like EAW, and I want to stay here, but if all the people here are willing to do is hate on me. I don't know why I'm here.


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TLA wrote:
Most people in EAW are too scared to be honest about their opinions of EAW or other people in EAW. It's a byproduct of the attitude required to be successful in e-feds. People look at the staff and veterans, how they talk, how they act, what their beliefs are and they copy them passing it off as if that's what they actually believe. 

They do this for several reasons. First, to fit in. If you are new and post dissenting opinions from the established norm you will end up like Kerry Keller. You will be rejected by the veterans and their sheep who play follow the leader. Second, to get ahead. As much as people want to argue about writing quality in promos, entertainment, boring gimmicks, etc, as far as I can tell there is only one real way to succeed in EAW. The writers have to like you more. Third, self-preservation. This one is a bit self-delusional because I doubt that anyone is actually going to get fired for this. But in the coward's mind they know they won't be strong enough to defend themselves in an actual argument, so they play it safe. They take the easy route, a phony route that allows them to stay in their comfort zone.

I have a hard time trusting most people here because it is impossible to tell who is being real and who is just playing politics to get ahead. I look at this thread and the only people posting anything relevant is the long-time veterans like DDD, Jay, and Imp. Everyone else is either posting jokes, opinions that aren't unpopular at all (like the shows being up on time), or minor complaints that nobody cares about.

tl;dr: People should stop holding back.
I agree with these things. The way it is for me is I speak my mind, and then people think because I point out one negative thing about someone that I'm "disrespecting" them. This place is for wrestling lovers who wanna have fun. I wanna have fun, but I keep finding less fun because of trolls like Venom or Stark. Or people who just want to insult me and don't stay in their own business. If I had a question for Charlie Scene, I'd ask Charlie Scene, but now, because I have a different opinion than him, I get hate from everyone who likes him too. 

I'm a member of this community too. And I think I at least want a BIT of respect. I've been here for a little more than half a year and I've survived all the hate I get. I don't think I DESERVE anything. More like I want to be accepted and I want for you guys to like me, if stating my opinion invokes you to not like me, then it's simple; DON'T TALK TO ME. I've tried to make friends with Charlie, I've tried to make friends with all the people who hate me, I know that I should ignore it, but I'm cornered by everyone who just wants to get me down because my opinion is different than theres. It's just fucking maddening. 

I like EAW, and I want to stay here, but if all the people here are willing to is hate on me. I don't know why I'm here.

One thing you have to learn in life is that you are NOT going to be able to please or befriend everyone. There are only a handful of people I'm legitimately cool with and can talk to about a lot of things. I associate in a friendly manner with many more, tolerate the rest.
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@towardswhatImpsaid I'm 90 percent sure that stuff was directed to KS and Demon, but just for 100 clarification, Imp can think of Norman however he wants, Imp can personally even think Norman sucks because that's Imp's right to an opinion, though I don't personally agree. All I was saying was the reason he pinpointed Norman to talk about was because of the promoer of the year stuff due to Tyler. I very much doubt Norman is the only pushed person in EAW that Imp thinks is average, or that'd he say that simply due to the push.

@TLA, I half agree and disagree with your statements. I do think some new people and mid tier people are more conservative than legends, but I don't think it's a follow the leader sheep type of thing that involves following legends. Imp dislikes Norman's promos, but that doesn't mean the rookies will suddenly turn on Norman, at the start I didn't think Kimbo should even be allowed in EAW-though he's proven me wrong in that regard- but it didn't mean everyone agreed with me about that.I don't think Keller should get all the hate he gets, but that doesn't mean people will stop hating on him.


I simply think it's that when your newer and more in the middle of class, odds are you're more likely to get attacked for your opinion by other rookies and the such than veterans. Take Imp and Keller for example. If Keller would of said Norman was an average promoer, guaranteed other rookies and everyone would of attacked him, but when Imp said it only other big names had anything to say about it. If someone like GC would of said it, rookies and others would of said he was jealous. If Imp was to say to say Robbie should step down, though I don't agree with that statement, it's likely less people, or no people, would have came to refute his opinion. Notice that the people who went on Keller for saying that were fellow rookies and other non legends.


I think it's unfair to blame it on a follow the legends mentality that stops people from being vocal, when in fact people are probably more intimidated by their fellow peers, because said peers are more likely to attacks than they would if it was a legend to made the statement.
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Certain individuals take things on here way, way too seriously. They will go on and on about their biased views/opinions, yet they fail to realize that the majority of those who are listening could honestly give less than a damn. It doesn't make them credible by any means, just makes them look like stuck up individuals. 

Some people are spared when they're acting like dickheads just because of their history with EAW. You'll have someone who was once considered a "GOAT" spew negativity on the forums, especially in the chatroom and no one says anything. I guess saying shit like "You should have gotten cancer instead of EE." is pretty acceptable. 

The hate that AA sometimes gets is unnecessary and obvious that some are just doing it because they see others do it. Stop being a bandwagoner, kid isn't all that bad. AND if a teenager on an e-federation website is giving you so much turmoil that you have to constantly spew your negativity towards him, then you need to re-evaluate your life choices.
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@ Jay, those are good points. I suppose it would be more fair to say people are less willing to speak out honestly not just to impress the legends but the rest of EAW in general. It's not so much a follow the legends mentality, but a follow the majority mentality. 

With the examples you gave I think they are more complicated than that. People aren't just gonna suddenly hate on Norman cuz Imp dislikes his promos, but then again other legends (you and AA) defended him. So who do people agree with you or Imp? It could go either way but I strongly suspect if you and AA had instead agreed with Imp, more people would have followed. This scenario makes more sense when you view it as a follow the majority mentality.

But ye I'm definitely overthinking this too much. It's definitely not fair to blame it on the legends because I think most of the veterans here would encourage anyone here (new or old) to be more outspoken, which was the point of my post. There are just some times where it is really obvious that people have complaints but refuse to bring it up for whatever reason. Which brings me to...

@ Keller, this is what I was talking about, and I would like to see more posts like this. I respect you for posting this because it's been pretty obvious for awhile that you're unhappy with how you are being treated here. But the fact is that it really hasn't been addressed the way it should be. Generally when I feel someone is being an asshole to me I confront them about it and we settle our differences. It's not going to stop unless you do. Like Carlos said, you won't be friends with everyone, but you might be able to make some friends. I recommend starting with Jay, he's already said he doesn't feel you deserve the hate you've gotten so you do have at least one ally. But I strongly recommend calling out the people who disrespect you, even if it starts a forum argument because otherwise they think they can get away with it.
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You'll have someone who was once considered a "GOAT" spew negativity on the forums, especially in the chatroom and no one says anything. I guess saying shit like "You should have gotten cancer instead of EE." is pretty acceptable. 
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Which "GOAT" was this?
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Pretty sure she's talking about LC
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I love LC, but when was he even frequently in top ten lists of all time, let alone a GOAT?
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I love LC, but when was he even frequently in top ten lists of all time, let alone a GOAT?
That's not even the point of my post...
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I love LC, but when was he even frequently in top ten lists of all time, let alone a GOAT?
That's not even the point of my post...

Yeah but it made it sound like this EAW beastly figure of high magnitude said that. Besides knowing LC he was either joking, trolling or not to be taken seriously, every one knows LC is that way. LC's basically a big named Kimbo.
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I love LC, but when was he even frequently in top ten lists of all time, let alone a GOAT?
That's not even the point of my post...

Yeah but it made it sound like this EAW beastly figure of high magnitude said that. Besides knowing LC he was either joking, trolling or not to be taken seriously, every one knows LC is that way. LC's basically a big named Kimbo.
LOL So funny I was JUST talking about that. Only because it's LC people say stuff like "aw, he's just jokin'. It's LC!" but I bet if a noob would have said it "ZOMG UR BAND FUREVER" the bias is real.
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@TLA, I half agree and disagree with your statements. I do think some new people and mid tier people are more conservative than legends, but I don't think it's a follow the leader sheep type of thing that involves following legends. Imp dislikes Norman's promos, but that doesn't mean the rookies will suddenly turn on Norman, at the start I didn't think Kimbo should even be allowed in EAW-though he's proven me wrong in that regard- but it didn't mean everyone agreed with me about that.I don't think Keller should get all the hate he gets, but that doesn't mean people will stop hating on him.


I simply think it's that when your newer and more in the middle of class, odds are you're more likely to get attacked for your opinion by other rookies and the such than veterans. Take Imp and Keller for example. If Keller would of said Norman was an average promoer, guaranteed other rookies and everyone would of attacked him, but when Imp said it only other big names had anything to say about it. If someone like GC would of said it, rookies and others would of said he was jealous. If Imp was to say to say Robbie should step down, though I don't agree with that statement, it's likely less people, or no people, would have came to refute his opinion. Notice that the people who went on Keller for saying that were fellow rookies and other non legends.


I think it's unfair to blame it on a follow the legends mentality that stops people from being vocal, when in fact people are probably more intimidated by their fellow peers, because said peers are more likely to attacks than they would if it was a legend to made the statement.
That would really have mostly to do with Imp having built a strong rapport with EAW over time, rather than Keller who hasn't been here long enough to have built a very strong rapport. When you come to a new place, it's uncouth to start spouting off at the mouth when you don't know how everybody is yet. Most of us have strong opinions about something or another. I don't think it's so much an intimidation thing than it is a matter of social standing. It's hard to fit in to a place when you're acting like you're top dog from day one. Nobody likes that. Most people prefer newbies who try to fit in and go with the flow, and it's not until they've built a rapport with the community that they can start doing bold shit. But you're right, it's not the Legends' fault at all, I don't think that's anybody's fault, tbh. Just how people act.
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I've been on the anti-LC bandwagon for a while now, and I generally don't like how his constant trolling gets shrugged off as "nothing." I get that it's his schtick, but it's unnecessary, excessive, and in many cases totally inappropriate. I don't see why someone would tell me "I wish you got cancer instead of LC" (which he did) other than the fact that they're tone-deaf as fuck and don't know anything about etiquette. 

I don't mind some light-hearted trolling, but it sure does seem like some people speak in exclusively troll dialect and you can't have a direct conversation with them no matter what.
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PostSubject: Re: What is your unpopular EAW opinion?    What is your unpopular EAW opinion?  - Page 3 EmptyMay 24th 2015, 3:20 am

Well okay, I personally have no issue with LC getting punished or something if that's the route we go on, but then we'd have to think about the whole standing of EAW when it comes to letting people get away with things because they're known for it and aren't to be taken seriously.

There's Kimbo and his troll posts.

There's Tornado who frequently breaks the rules of promos and EAW feed by challenging people to matches and is basically a joke/spam but nobody does anything because he's a joke. He even confuses new people like Keller, who don't happen to know we take him as a gag because he's either a troll, or retarded.
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I'm fine with Kimbo and all the other trolls. I am discriminately opposed to LC alone. In fact, all of the trolls should unite a troll task force against LC. Cool
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PostSubject: Re: What is your unpopular EAW opinion?    What is your unpopular EAW opinion?  - Page 3 EmptyMay 24th 2015, 3:34 am

Y2Impact wrote:
I'm fine with Kimbo and all the other trolls. I am discriminately opposed to LC alone. In fact, all of the trolls should unite a troll task force against LC. Cool
At least LC is funny/unique when trolling. Kimbo comes off as the corniest e-fedder of all time.
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