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Zack_Crash wrote:

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Methuselah wrote:

If you think Reigns was super over, you're lying to yourself.

The best he got were decent pops. He certainly wasn't ever BOOED before the Rumble, but just because he wasnt booed doesnt mean he was over. Ziggler Byan and Ambrose were all more over than him. Exponentially. He was Cena-level over in the sense that the same people who cheer for Cena probably cheer for Reigns, just without Cena's boos.

Reigns has only worked 2 PPV singles matches. Both of them relied on the other guy. One of them (Reigns vs Orton) fucking sucked, the other one (Reigns vs Bryan) was dependent on Bryan to pull everything out of his ass. Maybe Bryan shouldve let Reigns lead the match. Maybe he shouldve been like "Yeah, go a fucking head Reigns, lead this match". See if it wouldve still got a 4.5/5 star match. But of course he wouldn't because they tell him to put reigns over and he does it because he's a yes man. 2 PPV singles matches, a career of being carried by The Shield in terms of in the ring and on the mic, and he's in the Mania main event. Yeah, he's ready brehs. 


Thing is, Brock Lesnar doesnt carry people, he never has. Even his 5 star match against Kurt Angle, he never carried Kurt, it took 2. If you HONESTLY think Reigns pulled anywhere near equal weight in his singles matches, or any singles match hes ever had not involving the Big Show, you're mistaken. But hey, like I've been saying its Sink or Swim at Mania. LOGIC says Reigns isnt ready for that main event. The last guy I've seen main event mania who's done so little to prepare for it in their career is Lawrence Taylor. So no, its not all just irrational D Bry fan hate, its logic, its hes not the guy we want to see dethrone cena, its there are others way more over and way more talented and we're being hoodwinked and being fed scraps and are expected to shut the fuck up. At least, that's the crowds perspective. Jokes on them for paying for the shit, but hey Reigns can either flop at mania or prove himself. Either way, like one of those promos he cut, sink or swim.

Maybe Reigns wasn't SUPER over (at least not to the level Bryan was a year ago), but he was still over with the fans.  And over is over as far as I'm concerned.

If he was "over" then he wouldn't get so many boos. You would at least hear some cheers from the crowd. If he is over then #cancelwwenetwork wouldn't trend worldwide. Yes some of the "boos" were coming from upset DB fans but if any other good wrestler won it like Ambrose or Ziggler then I bet they would get cheered.

No one person is going to be universally over.  Even Bryan has his detractors.  Listen to the promo he cut on Cena before their Summerslam match and when he says "You talk about those men like they're better than me" and if you listen closely you can hear a fan shout back "They are!"  The majority of this Reigns booing began after the Rumble.

In Jerichos words, he was massively popular, so I was combating that sentiment. He literally said EVERYBODY loved Roman Reigns, which is a lie. The closest guy you can say "everybody" loved was Daniel Bryan. Reigns was middle of the pack popular. Dean Ambrose gets arguably the biggest pop on a nightly basis. Yes Reigns is liked, and yes he seems to even sell merchandise, but then again so does anyone theyre giving the big push.

My point to all of this is that it's more of a stretch to say Reigns IS ready for this than ISN'T. To say he's ready for this spot is to assume that he can work a great Mania main event, carry the company and do everything well. I just don't like Daniel Bryan fans getting the flack because they're shitting on the product. EVEN IF all of this, 100 percent is down to the fact that they want Bryan as the top guy and not Reigns, so fucking what? So fucking what? They want the guy who's better in the ring and on the mic on top of the other guy who's only there for his look and his relatives, and people are UPSET about that? People are UPSET that they want the better wrestler on top in 2015??? 

 How dare Reigns or Jericho or anyone come at the people who go to shows and bother to put money in their pockets simply for their opinion being voiced? If you pay 500 bucks and you're a Daniel Bryan fan and you dont like the guy being chosen above Bryan you have every right to shit on it. You're a paying fucking customer. People had this attitude in the 90s and thats how they got what they wanted, because they ferociously supported who they liked and heavily shit on who they didn't. But in todays day and age you have to "give Roman a chance", fuck that shit, this ain't politics, this is entertainment. You have the right to make demands.

[mention]Zack_Crash[/mention] wrote:

[mention]Jack Pierce[/mention] wrote:

[mention]Zack_Crash[/mention] wrote:

[mention]Methuselah[/mention] wrote:

If you think Reigns was super over, you're lying to yourself.

The best he got were decent pops. He certainly wasn't ever BOOED before the Rumble, but just because he wasnt booed doesnt mean he was over. Ziggler Byan and Ambrose were all more over than him. Exponentially. He was Cena-level over in the sense that the same people who cheer for Cena probably cheer for Reigns, just without Cena's boos.

Reigns has only worked 2 PPV singles matches. Both of them relied on the other guy. One of them (Reigns vs Orton) fucking sucked, the other one (Reigns vs Bryan) was dependent on Bryan to pull everything out of his ass. Maybe Bryan shouldve let Reigns lead the match. Maybe he shouldve been like "Yeah, go a fucking head Reigns, lead this match". See if it wouldve still got a 4.5/5 star match. But of course he wouldn't because they tell him to put reigns over and he does it because he's a yes man. 2 PPV singles matches, a career of being carried by The Shield in terms of in the ring and on the mic, and he's in the Mania main event. Yeah, he's ready brehs. 


Thing is, Brock Lesnar doesnt carry people, he never has. Even his 5 star match against Kurt Angle, he never carried Kurt, it took 2. If you HONESTLY think Reigns pulled anywhere near equal weight in his singles matches, or any singles match hes ever had not involving the Big Show, you're mistaken. But hey, like I've been saying its Sink or Swim at Mania. LOGIC says Reigns isnt ready for that main event. The last guy I've seen main event mania who's done so little to prepare for it in their career is Lawrence Taylor. So no, its not all just irrational D Bry fan hate, its logic, its hes not the guy we want to see dethrone cena, its there are others way more over and way more talented and we're being hoodwinked and being fed scraps and are expected to shut the fuck up. At least, that's the crowds perspective. Jokes on them for paying for the shit, but hey Reigns can either flop at mania or prove himself. Either way, like one of those promos he cut, sink or swim.

Maybe Reigns wasn't SUPER over (at least not to the level Bryan was a year ago), but he was still over with the fans.  And over is over as far as I'm concerned.

If he was "over" then he wouldn't get so many boos. You would at least hear some cheers from the crowd. If he is over then {#}cancelwwenetwork{/#} wouldn't trend worldwide. Yes some of the "boos" were coming from upset DB fans but if any other good wrestler won it like Ambrose or Ziggler then I bet they would get cheered.

No one person is going to be universally over.  Even Bryan has his detractors.  Listen to the promo he cut on Cena before their Summerslam match and when he says "You talk about those men like they're better than me" and if you listen closely you can hear a fan shout back "They are!"  The majority of this Reigns booing began after the Rumble.

He got bood after Rumble because it secured him a main event spot at Mania, not any other shows or PPVs before that. Maybe he had some fans before Rumble but I have never heard anyone say that "Oh I want to see this guy headline WM and win WWE title". For you it might not seem like a big deal as a fan, but it sure as hell is for the guys backstage who work their asses off every single day to make sure that they get their once in a lifetime opportunity and headline WM.

I'll be honest with you. I didn't want Bryan to win either but I would have been okay with the decision. His gimmick looked great when it first started but now it seems like its too old and he should switch it up a bit. Also I don't believe anyone should main event WM twice in a row especially for Bryan and what happened to him.

Jack Pierce wrote:

Zack_Crash wrote:

Methuselah wrote:

If you think Reigns was super over, you're lying to yourself.

The best he got were decent pops. He certainly wasn't ever BOOED before the Rumble, but just because he wasnt booed doesnt mean he was over. Ziggler Byan and Ambrose were all more over than him. Exponentially. He was Cena-level over in the sense that the same people who cheer for Cena probably cheer for Reigns, just without Cena's boos.

Reigns has only worked 2 PPV singles matches. Both of them relied on the other guy. One of them (Reigns vs Orton) fucking sucked, the other one (Reigns vs Bryan) was dependent on Bryan to pull everything out of his ass. Maybe Bryan shouldve let Reigns lead the match. Maybe he shouldve been like "Yeah, go a fucking head Reigns, lead this match". See if it wouldve still got a 4.5/5 star match. But of course he wouldn't because they tell him to put reigns over and he does it because he's a yes man. 2 PPV singles matches, a career of being carried by The Shield in terms of in the ring and on the mic, and he's in the Mania main event. Yeah, he's ready brehs. 


Thing is, Brock Lesnar doesnt carry people, he never has. Even his 5 star match against Kurt Angle, he never carried Kurt, it took 2. If you HONESTLY think Reigns pulled anywhere near equal weight in his singles matches, or any singles match hes ever had not involving the Big Show, you're mistaken. But hey, like I've been saying its Sink or Swim at Mania. LOGIC says Reigns isnt ready for that main event. The last guy I've seen main event mania who's done so little to prepare for it in their career is Lawrence Taylor. So no, its not all just irrational D Bry fan hate, its logic, its hes not the guy we want to see dethrone cena, its there are others way more over and way more talented and we're being hoodwinked and being fed scraps and are expected to shut the fuck up. At least, that's the crowds perspective. Jokes on them for paying for the shit, but hey Reigns can either flop at mania or prove himself. Either way, like one of those promos he cut, sink or swim.

Maybe Reigns wasn't SUPER over (at least not to the level Bryan was a year ago), but he was still over with the fans.  And over is over as far as I'm concerned.

If he was "over" then he wouldn't get so many boos. You would at least hear some cheers from the crowd. If he is over then #cancelwwenetwork wouldn't trend worldwide for such long time. Yes some of the "boos" were coming from upset DB fans but if any other good wrestler won it like Ambrose or Ziggler then I bet they would get cheered.

And one more thing, I don't hate Reigns because WWE shoved him down our throats. I hate him because he's a huge asshole and acts like he's better than everyone else in the locker room. I think he talked shit about the fans even before the Rumble so yeah. I honestly have no idea what kind of person wants him as a face of WWE

I'm pretty sure all of those people are just a very vocal minority.

Jack Pierce wrote:

Zack_Crash wrote:

Methuselah wrote:

If you think Reigns was super over, you're lying to yourself.

The best he got were decent pops. He certainly wasn't ever BOOED before the Rumble, but just because he wasnt booed doesnt mean he was over. Ziggler Byan and Ambrose were all more over than him. Exponentially. He was Cena-level over in the sense that the same people who cheer for Cena probably cheer for Reigns, just without Cena's boos.

Reigns has only worked 2 PPV singles matches. Both of them relied on the other guy. One of them (Reigns vs Orton) fucking sucked, the other one (Reigns vs Bryan) was dependent on Bryan to pull everything out of his ass. Maybe Bryan shouldve let Reigns lead the match. Maybe he shouldve been like "Yeah, go a fucking head Reigns, lead this match". See if it wouldve still got a 4.5/5 star match. But of course he wouldn't because they tell him to put reigns over and he does it because he's a yes man. 2 PPV singles matches, a career of being carried by The Shield in terms of in the ring and on the mic, and he's in the Mania main event. Yeah, he's ready brehs. 


Thing is, Brock Lesnar doesnt carry people, he never has. Even his 5 star match against Kurt Angle, he never carried Kurt, it took 2. If you HONESTLY think Reigns pulled anywhere near equal weight in his singles matches, or any singles match hes ever had not involving the Big Show, you're mistaken. But hey, like I've been saying its Sink or Swim at Mania. LOGIC says Reigns isnt ready for that main event. The last guy I've seen main event mania who's done so little to prepare for it in their career is Lawrence Taylor. So no, its not all just irrational D Bry fan hate, its logic, its hes not the guy we want to see dethrone cena, its there are others way more over and way more talented and we're being hoodwinked and being fed scraps and are expected to shut the fuck up. At least, that's the crowds perspective. Jokes on them for paying for the shit, but hey Reigns can either flop at mania or prove himself. Either way, like one of those promos he cut, sink or swim.

Maybe Reigns wasn't SUPER over (at least not to the level Bryan was a year ago), but he was still over with the fans.  And over is over as far as I'm concerned.

If he was "over" then he wouldn't get so many boos. You would at least hear some cheers from the crowd. If he is over then #cancelwwenetwork wouldn't trend worldwide. Yes some of the "boos" were coming from upset DB fans but if any other good wrestler won it like Ambrose or Ziggler then I bet they would get cheered.

No one person is going to be universally over.  Even Bryan has his detractors.  Listen to the promo he cut on Cena before their Summerslam match and when he says "You talk about those men like they're better than me" and if you listen closely you can hear a fan shout back "They are!"  The majority of this Reigns booing began after the Rumble.

[mention]Zack_Crash[/mention] wrote:

[mention]Methuselah[/mention] wrote:

If you think Reigns was super over, you're lying to yourself.

The best he got were decent pops. He certainly wasn't ever BOOED before the Rumble, but just because he wasnt booed doesnt mean he was over. Ziggler Byan and Ambrose were all more over than him. Exponentially. He was Cena-level over in the sense that the same people who cheer for Cena probably cheer for Reigns, just without Cena's boos.

Reigns has only worked 2 PPV singles matches. Both of them relied on the other guy. One of them (Reigns vs Orton) fucking sucked, the other one (Reigns vs Bryan) was dependent on Bryan to pull everything out of his ass. Maybe Bryan shouldve let Reigns lead the match. Maybe he shouldve been like "Yeah, go a fucking head Reigns, lead this match". See if it wouldve still got a 4.5/5 star match. But of course he wouldn't because they tell him to put reigns over and he does it because he's a yes man. 2 PPV singles matches, a career of being carried by The Shield in terms of in the ring and on the mic, and he's in the Mania main event. Yeah, he's ready brehs. 


Thing is, Brock Lesnar doesnt carry people, he never has. Even his 5 star match against Kurt Angle, he never carried Kurt, it took 2. If you HONESTLY think Reigns pulled anywhere near equal weight in his singles matches, or any singles match hes ever had not involving the Big Show, you're mistaken. But hey, like I've been saying its Sink or Swim at Mania. LOGIC says Reigns isnt ready for that main event. The last guy I've seen main event mania who's done so little to prepare for it in their career is Lawrence Taylor. So no, its not all just irrational D Bry fan hate, its logic, its hes not the guy we want to see dethrone cena, its there are others way more over and way more talented and we're being hoodwinked and being fed scraps and are expected to shut the fuck up. At least, that's the crowds perspective. Jokes on them for paying for the shit, but hey Reigns can either flop at mania or prove himself. Either way, like one of those promos he cut, sink or swim.

Maybe Reigns wasn't SUPER over (at least not to the level Bryan was a year ago), but he was still over with the fans.  And over is over as far as I'm concerned.

If he was "over" then he wouldn't get so many boos. You would at least hear some cheers from the crowd. If he is over then {#}cancelwwenetwork{/#} wouldn't trend worldwide for such long time. Yes some of the "boos" were coming from upset DB fans but if any other good wrestler won it like Ambrose or Ziggler then I bet they would get cheered.

And one more thing, I don't hate Reigns because WWE shoved him down our throats. I hate him because he's a huge asshole and acts like he's better than everyone else in the locker room. I think he talked shit about the fans even before the Rumble so yeah. I honestly have no idea what kind of person wants him as a face of WWE