Caster of Dreams. wrote:

For starters, I would heavily disregard Aren as one of the Underrated guys because trust me, I can grasp a reason as to why you would classify him under such class. Sure, he may be silent in the chat or forums. Si, he may have not been promoing under a consistent basis. Despite those two things, if he was to emerge as an active promoer, he would be one of the top guys in here. I have known Aren for three years (back in FWE), so I know how he engages himself in his promos. Trust me, he's a good kid.

As for the Top 5, underrated, I would also like to classify the word, underrated, because it has appeared to be an overused term in today's system.

Underrated - having undervalued attention, importance, and work rate (as far as EAW goes)

Now for my Top 5:

1. Alex Anderson
2. Jacob Senn
3. Moonlight Predator
4. Jamie O'Hara
5. Matt Miles

Thanks

I'm not sure why people are taking being called underrated as a compliment. 

MTM wrote:

Komodo Dragon wrote:

It's these types of moments when I am reminded how much people put over their boy crushes and illogicality over any kind of meritocracy and logic.

Matt Miles has storylines, defeats EAW big names, was put into that big cage match with AA which I'm pretty sure he won and was named a thousand times on the most promising future thread.

Don't forget the title I'm about to win. 

There is certain criterion that gets placed for each of the five that I have listed. Of course you may have your version, but I also have my own variation. Plus, something is going on here not needs to get resolved before I step in, and the person knows himself.

Lannister wrote:

But I also feel Lucian Black and William Black... the Black's, their promoing ability has been overlooked. Sure, GC has some history and what not, but that should not stain what's been an awesome run, and he's one of the few who has actually progressed from year's past in terms of promoing. And I'll say this right now, William Black is the diamond in the rough, the superstar you didn't see coming. I'm not hyping him up just because I'm a Co-Showdown writer, legit, nobody speaks about this guy, and it's probably due to not being a chatroom cat, but it happens. Those are the two I see as underappreciated in terms of being overlooked, but I don't see that lasting too long.

You'll be seeing more of me on chat. Hopefully. I've been working my ass off, and it's no excuse, but I'll be around more. Especially after a review like that.
Phew

Pierre MacGuire busts his ass and hes old enough to be my grandpa. Mad props, yo.

Mr. DEDEDE wrote:

Pierre MacGuire busts his ass and hes old enough to be my grandpa. Mad props, yo.

You're old enough to be my grandpa.

Lannister wrote:

I have to agree with Jamie here... ratings are such a subjective thing. It's to each of their own. But I won't take that cop out, completely, for there definitely are people under-appreciated here in EAW.

For one, I think Zack Crash/Psycho Brody is under-appreciated for his work with two amazing characters and being able to promo actively for both. Stuff like that shouldn't be swept under the rug. But it does not go without notice in my eyes, and when it's all said and done, Crash may be the most under-appreciated mainevent talent in history. And always promoing from a library, again, who else would have that drive to not do that for just one week, one month... but for your entire "efedding career". Not a lot of people other than writers give Crash/Brody his due in this regard.

But I also feel Lucian Black and William Black... the Black's, their promoing ability has been overlooked. Sure, GC has some history and what not, but that should not stain what's been an awesome run, and he's one of the few who has actually progressed from year's past in terms of promoing. And I'll say this right now, William Black is the diamond in the rough, the superstar you didn't see coming. I'm not hyping him up just because I'm a Co-Showdown writer, legit, nobody speaks about this guy, and it's probably due to not being a chatroom cat, but it happens. Those are the two I see as underappreciated in terms of being overlooked, but I don't see that lasting too long.

I suppose that's three and I need to give two more... How about some love for Ryan Savage? He's been swept under the rug and passed over time and time again, even when he was a reigning champion. Is Savage a mainevent talent at this point of time - well, of course not. But why is it that Savage is the only one being ridiculed for as such when many are in the same boat? He's been given leftovers the past few months, even with trying hard and taking advice from any that's willing to give in the promo aspect. This isn't a Jon Kelton scenario who is just the same guy, year-after-year... Savage definitely deserves a fair opportunity going forward. So all-in-all, script wise, Savage has been overlooked. And that's without question.

One more, I'd love to give my other SD boys some love like Norman, Oasis, Aaron, Vic Vendetta, etc... but without a doubt, the other under-appreciated talent is EAW'S PIERRE MCGUIRE! WHO ELSE GIVES YOU BREAKING NEWS AND DEDICATED INSIGHT OTHER THAN THE ONE AND ONLY?! PIERRE IS PERSISTENT, HELL, HE SHOULD OF BEEN CAST IN "NIGHT CRAWLER" ...He always gets the interview he wants! One day you all will understand he'll go down as the best interviewer of all time.

I don't expect to get any love from anyone anytime soon aside from you, Zack, Vic and Jamie  and some other blokes I can't think of right now

This thread has been diluted a little.

Of course this is all subjective very much. There is no right or wrong, as to whether someone is overrated or underrated. Some guys are just "rated"

To me... being overrated means you are simply not as good as you look or think that you are.

Like for example, I think John Cena is incredibly overrated. He's good. Sure, but his technical skills are just garbage. He does 1 or 2 submissions, and some shoulder charges, clothesline, AA, and what else? Maybe a suplex? I mean it's horrible.

Underrated people are those that are very good that get no credit or attention. They are better than they appear to be.

Examples of this would be... Edge/Christian when they first arrived, and even today still. They were and are always better than you think. Sure Edge was on top for awhile there, but before he was Champ, he was very much underrated. I always thought Bam Bam Bigelow and guys like Bret Hart were also underrated.

Sure Bret Hart was on top of the world. What about the year of 1997? He did alot of dumb matches that year aside from 2-3 big ones. His career is defined by being bad on the mic, cool look, great technically... but I consider him underrated. Just a little. I mean no one noticed Bret Hart hardly until 92ish. So he only had about 5-6 years of main event big status, in a career of 20+ years in the business. So therefore he was underrated... a little. WCW's use of him was horrible too.

Someone else that is underrated... Owen Hart, extremely gifted, very good. Didn't get the credit. I thought Farooq was also underrated. Ahmed Johnson very much underrated. Shawn Michaels is always one. You might ask "how in the hell is a hall of gamer underrated?" Well in my opinion he is just based on the fact he had surgery, missed 4 years, came back and was BETTER than he was before. Plus he held the title 1 time post 2002, and carried younger guys. She HBK gets tons of credit, but based on how good he did in his early to mid 40s... I think he's slightly underrated.

While I'm in this train of thought... other OVERRATED guys...

Hulk Hogan, big time! Simulair to John Cena, but not quite as bad. Since he did turn heel and reinvent himself, but his red/yellow days were so fucking overrated I puke. 

Kevin Nash... horribly overrated. Hard to work with in Diesel days, and just a big name with some charisma. He's cool, I like him, but he's very much overrated. Scott Hall is a little bit, but he had much more technical ability.

thats about it.

Some of this is kinda no brainer stuff, but this thread got kinda away from what is and what isn't and what should be over and underrated.

Just to through some EAW guys out there.

I do actually think myself to be underrated a little. I think O'Hara is underrated too. He's champ, but he does very well.

I think Savage is underrated. I think some are overrated too but I don't want to step on toes here.

I love EAW.

^^ Agreed on Owen and Bret being underrated. Even with the name ''the best there is, the best there was, the best there ever will be'', not enough people realize how fuckin good Bret really was. Even when he was ehh on the mic he was still a great wrestler, crisp, clean, excellence of execution. Worked with anybody, realistically stiff, took a stupid ass angle like the shit against Dr. Isaac Yankem and kept his dignity, and is ONE OF THE BEST HEELS EVER. PERIOD. The disgruntled minority/non-american angle was perfected by him, and he was dropping pipebombs before CM Punk was. And don't get me started with Owen. The guy had charisma out the ass, natural personality, phenomenal wrestler.

Christian is also underrated, but Edge... idk, hes had pretty much the perfect career tbh, but before 06 I agree he was underrated like hell.

Cool, nice to know someone else think the Harts were underrated.

At first glanec without thinking about it... it's like "NO WAY! the harts got all kinds of hype"

when you think about it... not really

and yes Bret's heel turn was wonderful.

Vic Vendetta is the most underrated right now.

Kevin Devastation is the most underrated big name in EAW history. Never gets respect.

All of these Jamie Noble's and Kofi Kingston's front like they're The Rock.