Are there any extremists in EAW who you feel that, whether it be due to storylines or lack of effort, should have done significantly better during their run than they actually did?

Me
PoP 
Colin Kaline
Xavier McCoy
Troy Conway 
Venom (if he wasn't an idiot)
Johnny Ventura (from what I heard at least)
AA if he stuck around
Apollo Calix (don't know much about him but pretty sure he could get better things)
Hessian
Hades ( 3 years without world title)
Dc (same thing as Hades)
Pyrite
SES
Sasha Fierce

idk who else

Moonlight Predator wrote:

Venom (if he wasn't an idiot)

That's asking for the impossible. 

Kawajai

Busts and non hall of famers I guess?

Moonlight Predator wrote:

Me
PoP 
Colin Kaline
Xavier McCoy
Troy Conway 
Venom (if he wasn't an idiot)
Johnny Ventura (from what I heard at least)
AA if he stuck around
Apollo Calix (don't know much about him but pretty sure he could get better things)
Hessian
Hades ( 3 years without world title)
Dc (same thing as Hades)
Pyrite
SES
Sasha Fierce

idk who else

I wouldn't have improved if I didn't take a break.

I don't think Venom's problem was being an idiot, it was his petty jealousy that got in the way.

Me.

For now.

Ryan Savage wrote:

I don't think Venom's problem was being an idiot, it was his petty jealousy that got in the way.

A smart person wouldn't use racist remarks.

but ye, dub, pop, ventura take this.

Komodo Dragon wrote:

Busts and non hall of famers I guess?

eh not really, I'd consider somebody like Liam to have overachieved as opposed to underachieved when you consider how exposed and out of his depth he looked as AWC

Komodo Dragon wrote:

Busts and non hall of famers I guess?

I was thinking of something more specific. Extremists who stood out to you as promoers who didn't get as far as they should have.

Midas Touch Matt wrote:

Komodo Dragon wrote:

Busts and non hall of famers I guess?

I was thinking of something more specific. Extremists who stood out to you as promoers who didn't get as far as they should have.

Oh then John Alloy. 

Defeating DE and EE on fpv one on two, defeating the entire Cavalry in a handicap, NE Champion, EAW Champion and Promoer of the Year, with only one fpv loss(albeit it being the biggest FPV in PFP), is a great year as far as I'm concerned.

Kawajai
Liam Catterson
Johnny Ventura

I don't think Liam underachieved. I think he hit his ceiling and left.

StarrStan wrote:

I don't think Liam underachieved. I think he hit his ceiling and left.

  Correct

However
Johnny Ventura, Moonlight Predator, Troy Conway underachieved. POP is on the fence for me and considering he's here right now.. I won't say it and same goes for me.

Why is everyone so hard on Liam? Not just this thread, but all of the time. He wasn't the best but come on, it's not like he was trash. He's ten times better than people like Pyrite(who copied people's promos from other feds for god sakes.), and he had the skill set of any midcarders people won't hop off today. I bet if Liam never became world champ was as consistent as he was he'd have a crazy fanbase mourning how he was never given his spot, but since he got his spot people always hating.

Liam wasn't trash, he was good but not good enough to be main eventer tbh, which was generally the consensus when he was matched up against people in the main event but he was a midcarder really and that was seen again during his AWC run and when he was a upper/main eventer after it, he just tried way too hard and couldn't really grasp it, it's not a knock-on him because not everybody can be a main eventer, I just think he overachieved given his ability (even if I thought he had alot of potential back then) as opposed to underachieving.

Would also disagree about Kawa underachieving, longest reigning EAW Champion, Triple Crown, Grand Slam, IW, UTTC, EAW Champion, Elite Champion, Lead of the 2012 HOF.

Not knocking on Liam's career or him as an e-fedder, because he did put in a lot of effort and had a great year in EAW. Although he promoed a lot they were average at best, and I never saw him being able to get the respect other main eventers got or even get people to want him to succeed again.

I don't think he was ever going to get close to the success he had in his first year or have any good/memorable feuds since he just wasn't respected enough or had many fans in chat (since he was rarely seen and obviously had people who didn't like him).

Eddie Mack

Gone and forgotten.

Shocked at the number of mentions (or complete lack thereof) of that Ken guy. Definitely has underachieved in the in-script aspect.

Moonlight Predator wrote:

Me
PoP 
Colin Kaline
Xavier McCoy
Troy Conway 
Venom (if he wasn't an idiot)
Johnny Ventura (from what I heard at least)
AA if he stuck around
Apollo Calix (don't know much about him but pretty sure he could get better things)
Hessian
Hades ( 3 years without world title)
Dc (same thing as Hades)
Pyrite
SES
Sasha Fierce

idk who else

I'm back bitch.