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Amaya Fax
Posts : 9 Age : 26 Hailing From : The #175&UpClub Status : She ain't fat bruh
| Subject: Fire Phoenix Winterborn October 25th 2016, 12:30 pm | |
| Let me preface this by saying that no, I am not as active as many of you other participants on this site, and I recognize that the point of this is to have fun in a supportive, non-demonizing environment. But when I was scrolling through the site and checking out the feed earlier, I came across something that is and was absolutely unacceptable: I don't think I have to go too far into what's upsetting about this. But for the sake of being clear, I'll go ahead and say the obvious: Phoenix Winterborn (screen name: Sanatorium Phoenix) is referencing Kanye West and Jay-Z's song "N*ggas in Paris". However, trying to be hilarious (and failing miserably), he replaced "N*ggas" with "gorillas". In using "gorillas" as a synonym to "n*ggas", Phoenix Winterborn is clearly using a dated, derogatory comparison between black people and apes. If you believe this screen grab is doctored, I invite you to go check out the actual post on the EAW Feed. It's their, folks. Like I said, I recognize that this is a fantasy wrestling site with fantasy characters, but this guy is clearly making a blatantly racist remark that makes me, and I'm sure others, extremely uncomfortable. This is not the type of thing that can be written off just because he's "in character". In character or not, racism should absolutely not be tolerated anywhere, especially within a community site like this which I'm sure has plenty of African-Americans. Knowing that this site has punished, banned, and/or fired racists like Phoenix Winterborn in the past, I think it's only right that the board intervene in this atrocity and fire Phoenix Winterborn immediately. Nobody in EAW should have a racist character to begin with, but having one clearly says something about the handler behind the character. I ask that anyone who supports this notion of implementing justice to respond down in the comments with how they feel about the situation. I know that I may just be more offended than others, but I know I can't be the only one here that thinks that it's unacceptable to even be subtly making that kind of joke around here. And if anyone on the board happens to be reading this, please know that I would be incredibly disappointed with a site of this caliber if something like this went unpunished. Racism should not be acceptable on a platform like this. Fire Phoenix Winterborn. |
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Phoenix Winterborn
Posts : 521 Age : 43 Hailing From : The Windy City of Chicago, Illinois Status : Round 2.
| Subject: Re: Fire Phoenix Winterborn October 25th 2016, 12:35 pm | |
| Except that the context that I was using the other term was for the following reasons:
1) I do not use the 'n' word in any context unless I have been given personal permission by the individuals I am with.
2) The line of the sing I'm referring to is as follows "Got my n****s in Paris, and they goin gorillas."
So, before you go around accusing me of racism, how about you PM me and ask whats going on, before you go on this witch hunt to try and get me fired. Kay? Thanks. |
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Bhris Elite Voltage
Posts : 2052 Age : 27 Status : #FRA
| Subject: Re: Fire Phoenix Winterborn October 25th 2016, 12:35 pm | |
| Kanye doesn't accept you changing his song lyrics. |
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kennydrake
Posts : 992 Age : 38 Hailing From : Portland, OR Status : Gone Daddy Gone
| Subject: Re: Fire Phoenix Winterborn October 25th 2016, 12:57 pm | |
| No. Don't fire Phoenix.
Wait...is this all In Character?
If so, change yo gimmick.
Seriously, though? You fire Phoenix, I fuckin quit. |
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Dead End Bride
Posts : 335
| Subject: Re: Fire Phoenix Winterborn October 25th 2016, 1:01 pm | |
| This is the most ridiculous thing I've seen on EAW since.............well I see something ridiculous on EAW every day so this is the MOST RIDICULOUS THING IVE SEEN TODAY! |
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Aria Jaxon Empire
Posts : 2593 Age : 29 Hailing From : Sparks City, California. Status : Wanna seize the throne, but what would you do with all that control?
| Subject: Re: Fire Phoenix Winterborn October 25th 2016, 1:02 pm | |
| So we just have random people dropping outta the sky now and demanding that someone else gets fired? Yeah I think not. Next. |
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Dead End Bride
Posts : 335
| Subject: Re: Fire Phoenix Winterborn October 25th 2016, 1:13 pm | |
| - Amaya Fax wrote:
- Let me preface this by saying that no, I am not as active as many of you other participants on this site, and I recognize that the point of this is to have fun in a supportive, non-demonizing environment. But when I was scrolling through the site and checking out the feed earlier, I came across something that is and was absolutely unacceptable:
I don't think I have to go too far into what's upsetting about this. But for the sake of being clear, I'll go ahead and say the obvious: Phoenix Winterborn (screen name: Sanatorium Phoenix) is referencing Kanye West and Jay-Z's song "N*ggas in Paris". However, trying to be hilarious (and failing miserably), he replaced "N*ggas" with "gorillas". In using "gorillas" as a synonym to "n*ggas", Phoenix Winterborn is clearly using a dated, derogatory comparison between black people and apes. If you believe this screen grab is doctored, I invite you to go check out the actual post on the EAW Feed. It's their, folks.
Like I said, I recognize that this is a fantasy wrestling site with fantasy characters, but this guy is clearly making a blatantly racist remark that makes me, and I'm sure others, extremely uncomfortable. This is not the type of thing that can be written off just because he's "in character". In character or not, racism should absolutely not be tolerated anywhere, especially within a community site like this which I'm sure has plenty of African-Americans.
Knowing that this site has punished, banned, and/or fired racists like Phoenix Winterborn in the past, I think it's only right that the board intervene in this atrocity and fire Phoenix Winterborn immediately. Nobody in EAW should have a racist character to begin with, but having one clearly says something about the handler behind the character.
I ask that anyone who supports this notion of implementing justice to respond down in the comments with how they feel about the situation. I know that I may just be more offended than others, but I know I can't be the only one here that thinks that it's unacceptable to even be subtly making that kind of joke around here. And if anyone on the board happens to be reading this, please know that I would be incredibly disappointed with a site of this caliber if something like this went unpunished. Racism should not be acceptable on a platform like this.
Fire Phoenix Winterborn. You are a damn fool if you think Phoenix was being deliberately racist. |
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TLA Voltage
Posts : 3007 Hailing From : Where they ain't want me to be #ThaHall Status : Bein' a badder hombre than ever before
| Subject: Re: Fire Phoenix Winterborn October 25th 2016, 1:33 pm | |
| Fuck black people. I can't believe that Phoenix would disrespeck HARAMBE like this. #DicksOut |
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Carson Ramsay Voltage
Posts : 1463 Age : 27 Hailing From : Batman, Turkey Status : Stay down.
| Subject: Re: Fire Phoenix Winterborn October 25th 2016, 7:02 pm | |
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Sir Killian Charlamagne Dynasty
Posts : 1660 Age : 26 Hailing From : Camelot, Ontario, Canada Status : DEUS VULT!
| Subject: Re: Fire Phoenix Winterborn October 25th 2016, 7:09 pm | |
| The only cringe here is that it was Kanye West being mentioned. But wait. Phoenix, how do you have Gorillas in Paris? Don't they all hate us after what happened to "Uncle Harambe"? |
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Nasir Escobar Dynasty
Posts : 3316 Age : 27 Hailing From : Brick City BITCH~! Status : If you don’t like your destiny, don’t accept it. Instead, have the courage to change it the way you want it to be~!
| Subject: Re: Fire Phoenix Winterborn October 25th 2016, 7:11 pm | |
| I mean, Phoenix is garbage and all...but no need to fire the guy, not like he winning any important matches anytime soon. |
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Sir Killian Charlamagne Dynasty
Posts : 1660 Age : 26 Hailing From : Camelot, Ontario, Canada Status : DEUS VULT!
| Subject: Re: Fire Phoenix Winterborn October 25th 2016, 7:15 pm | |
| - Dead End Bride wrote:
- Amaya Fax wrote:
- Let me preface this by saying that no, I am not as active as many of you other participants on this site, and I recognize that the point of this is to have fun in a supportive, non-demonizing environment. But when I was scrolling through the site and checking out the feed earlier, I came across something that is and was absolutely unacceptable:
I don't think I have to go too far into what's upsetting about this. But for the sake of being clear, I'll go ahead and say the obvious: Phoenix Winterborn (screen name: Sanatorium Phoenix) is referencing Kanye West and Jay-Z's song "N*ggas in Paris". However, trying to be hilarious (and failing miserably), he replaced "N*ggas" with "gorillas". In using "gorillas" as a synonym to "n*ggas", Phoenix Winterborn is clearly using a dated, derogatory comparison between black people and apes. If you believe this screen grab is doctored, I invite you to go check out the actual post on the EAW Feed. It's their, folks.
Like I said, I recognize that this is a fantasy wrestling site with fantasy characters, but this guy is clearly making a blatantly racist remark that makes me, and I'm sure others, extremely uncomfortable. This is not the type of thing that can be written off just because he's "in character". In character or not, racism should absolutely not be tolerated anywhere, especially within a community site like this which I'm sure has plenty of African-Americans.
Knowing that this site has punished, banned, and/or fired racists like Phoenix Winterborn in the past, I think it's only right that the board intervene in this atrocity and fire Phoenix Winterborn immediately. Nobody in EAW should have a racist character to begin with, but having one clearly says something about the handler behind the character.
I ask that anyone who supports this notion of implementing justice to respond down in the comments with how they feel about the situation. I know that I may just be more offended than others, but I know I can't be the only one here that thinks that it's unacceptable to even be subtly making that kind of joke around here. And if anyone on the board happens to be reading this, please know that I would be incredibly disappointed with a site of this caliber if something like this went unpunished. Racism should not be acceptable on a platform like this.
Fire Phoenix Winterborn. You are a damn fool if you think Phoenix was being deliberately racist. Racism would imply someone using the N word to get heel heat. I remember one guy on another fed did that. The comparison to Gorillas is just something that has a rhythmic flow. I have never in my life heard of people of African descent be referenced to as "Gorillas". Fat people? Yes but not dark skinned people. Though even I can't see where you're coming from. Probably modern PC culture nice Schmidtpost by the way |
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MTM
Posts : 2369 Age : 24 Hailing From : San Diego, California Status : Welcome back to my world.
| Subject: Re: Fire Phoenix Winterborn October 25th 2016, 7:37 pm | |
| - Nasir Uzumaki wrote:
- I mean, Phoenix is garbage and all...but no need to fire the guy, not like he winning any important matches anytime soon.
Yeah, listen to the guy who beat Aren at TI. Oh wait. |
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Nasir Escobar Dynasty
Posts : 3316 Age : 27 Hailing From : Brick City BITCH~! Status : If you don’t like your destiny, don’t accept it. Instead, have the courage to change it the way you want it to be~!
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Jon McAdams Voltage
Posts : 516 Age : 35 Hailing From : England, United Kingdoms Status : Trying to be a better man...
| Subject: Re: Fire Phoenix Winterborn October 25th 2016, 8:03 pm | |
| This right here is how you get XPac heat. |
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MTM
Posts : 2369 Age : 24 Hailing From : San Diego, California Status : Welcome back to my world.
| Subject: Re: Fire Phoenix Winterborn October 25th 2016, 8:05 pm | |
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J-Dynasty 2? Showdown
Posts : 2747 Age : 31 Hailing From : Scarborough Ontario Status : I'm out, for now. I imagine my return, but if not, it was good times overall. Much love. J.
| Subject: Re: Fire Phoenix Winterborn October 25th 2016, 8:37 pm | |
| Whose second character is this? |
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Stephanie Matsuda Empire
Posts : 3092 Age : 39 Hailing From : BK Status : Back to the drawing board...
| Subject: Re: Fire Phoenix Winterborn October 25th 2016, 10:03 pm | |
| - Aria Jaxon wrote:
- So we just have random people dropping outta the sky now and demanding that someone else gets fired? Yeah I think not. Next.
*sits next to Aria and stares in 'Old Black Church Lady'* |
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ᴍᴏɴɪᴄᴀ ᴠᴀᴜɢʜᴀɴ .
Posts : 409 Age : 33 Hailing From : MA ✈ TN Status : fєєlín' vαughαntαstíc !
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Anthony Leonhart Voltage
Posts : 1818 Age : 32 Hailing From : New Japan Wrestling Academy Status : #IchimichiZaibatsuCorporation
| Subject: Re: Fire Phoenix Winterborn October 26th 2016, 5:04 am | |
| A 9 posts Amaya Fax wants a 516 posts Phoenix Winterborn to be fired ? Seriously ? |
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True American Tragedy
Posts : 547 Age : 35 Hailing From : Jacksonville, Florida Status : Fuck this.
| Subject: Re: Fire Phoenix Winterborn October 26th 2016, 5:15 am | |
| TMW my tweet was more offensive than that. Fucking pussy. |
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『zakkii』 Empire
Posts : 6357 Age : 31 Hailing From : WKWKWK Land Status : 『Whatever tomorrow brings, I'll be there!』
| Subject: Re: Fire Phoenix Winterborn October 26th 2016, 5:35 am | |
| This is what happened if you let kimbo back in the chat. |
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LVCIAN
Posts : 5167 Age : 28 Hailing From : THE PRAIRIE STATE Status : I'm not your fucking prey.
| Subject: Re: Fire Phoenix Winterborn October 26th 2016, 10:28 am | |
| How about they fire you instead? |
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Phoenix Winterborn
Posts : 521 Age : 43 Hailing From : The Windy City of Chicago, Illinois Status : Round 2.
| Subject: Re: Fire Phoenix Winterborn October 26th 2016, 12:06 pm | |
| Thanks for havin my back, guise.
Much luv. |
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Sir Killian Charlamagne Dynasty
Posts : 1660 Age : 26 Hailing From : Camelot, Ontario, Canada Status : DEUS VULT!
| Subject: Re: Fire Phoenix Winterborn October 26th 2016, 12:39 pm | |
| Even then. With that grammar it sounds like he was using "Gorilla" as a verb |
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