Or is abortion an "all or nothing" issue? Meaning you don't necessarily have to fit a criteria regardless of age.

Well the thing is if we let underage girls get abortions on their own thatll lead the slippery slope questions of ppl asking why underaged girls cant do other things such as do porn or do drugs or whatever

so my answer is prolly not

Mr. DEDEDE wrote:

Well the thing is if we let underage girls get abortions on their own thatll lead the slippery slope questions of ppl asking why underaged girls cant do other things such as do porn or do drugs or whatever

so my answer is prolly not

But what if their parents deny their plea to get an abortion and they're strongly against having the kid?

Y2Impact wrote:

Mr. DEDEDE wrote:

Well the thing is if we let underage girls get abortions on their own thatll lead the slippery slope questions of ppl asking why underaged girls cant do other things such as do porn or do drugs or whatever

so my answer is prolly not

But what if their parents deny their plea to get an abortion and they're strongly against having the kid?

I know the argument to that easily could be "it's the childs body and she shouldn't be forced to have the baby

However, with the way it's set up in our country right now, children do not have autonomy over their bodies. They cannot get tattoos, they cannot smoke cigarettes, they cannot even leave the residence other than for school without the parent's consent. The fact is you do not have full, legal freedom until you're 18, and if he parent is ambivalent in having the child I'm afraid there isn't anything that can be done about it from the child's part. That's the only consistent way in my opinion, otherwise it creates inconsistencies and lead down a potentially dark path where underaged children end up getting way too many rights when they can't really even think for themselves correctly until like 17. The decision making areas of the brain arent really even that full developed till 21, hence why the drinking age is that level. I don't necessarily agree too much to the way things are but to allow children to get abortions on their own would require a complete systematic overhaul.

Sure there are other methods for discarding an unborn baby that  dont include actual abortion as well, and i think Plan B pills / contraceptive pulls / date rape pill or whatever should be as easy to get as M&M's. It should NEVER be a hassle to have birth control, i dont care what age the person is.

Mr. DEDEDE wrote:

Well the thing is if we let underage girls get abortions on their own thatll lead the slippery slope questions of ppl asking why underaged girls cant do other things such as do porn or do drugs or whatever

so my answer is prolly not

1. Drugs are illegal. Minors committing sexual acts are illegal. Abortions are not. These aren't even moderately comparable.

2. Slippery slope arguments are by their nature, logical fallacies. You can't use them to argue points, since there are always two sides to them (Underage people shouldn't be able to do anything, etc, etc)

Still, as for the topic at hand...I don't know about the US, but in Australia, children are ruled to have sufficient knowledge of their body to start opting into procedures at 14 (or younger if the court agrees that it is appropriate). My answer would fall into that realm. A 14 year old is probably reasonable enough to what a baby would entail, and should be able to make a decision about their body on that basis.

I believe that it is the girl's choice to get the abortion since she is the one having the child. The catch is, I think that she should give a strong reason on WHY she wants the abortion because that's killing an innocent human being. So with strong reason I believe it should be allowed.

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No. If anything, they should be getting permission to have sex or have babies(if abortion is legal at all). If abortion is legal there should no reason underage girls of all people should be the ones having difficulty getting one.

Jaywalker wrote:

No. If anything, they should be getting permission to have sex or have babies(if abortion is legal at all). If abortion is legal there should no reason underage girls of all people should be the ones having difficulty getting one.

I was going to post something, but this pretty much sums up my thoughts on the matter~!

Nasir Moore wrote:

Jaywalker wrote:

No. If anything, they should be getting permission to have sex or have babies(if abortion is legal at all). If abortion is legal there should no reason underage girls of all people should be the ones having difficulty getting one.

I was going to post something, but this pretty much sums up my thoughts on the matter~!

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Grace Izumi wrote:

Mr. DEDEDE wrote:

Well the thing is if we let underage girls get abortions on their own thatll lead the slippery slope questions of ppl asking why underaged girls cant do other things such as do porn or do drugs or whatever

so my answer is prolly not

1. Drugs are illegal. Minors committing sexual acts are illegal. Abortions are not. These aren't even moderately comparable.

2. Slippery slope arguments are by their nature, logical fallacies. You can't use them to argue points, since there are always two sides to them (Underage people shouldn't be able to do anything, etc, etc)

Still, as for the topic at hand...I don't know about the US, but in Australia, children are ruled to have sufficient knowledge of their body to start opting into procedures at 14 (or younger if the court agrees that it is appropriate). My answer would fall into that realm. A 14 year old is probably reasonable enough to what a baby would entail, and should be able to make a decision about their body on that basis.

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Mr. DEDEDE wrote:

Grace Izumi wrote:

Mr. DEDEDE wrote:

Well the thing is if we let underage girls get abortions on their own thatll lead the slippery slope questions of ppl asking why underaged girls cant do other things such as do porn or do drugs or whatever

so my answer is prolly not

1. Drugs are illegal. Minors committing sexual acts are illegal. Abortions are not. These aren't even moderately comparable.

2. Slippery slope arguments are by their nature, logical fallacies. You can't use them to argue points, since there are always two sides to them (Underage people shouldn't be able to do anything, etc, etc)

Still, as for the topic at hand...I don't know about the US, but in Australia, children are ruled to have sufficient knowledge of their body to start opting into procedures at 14 (or younger if the court agrees that it is appropriate). My answer would fall into that realm. A 14 year old is probably reasonable enough to what a baby would entail, and should be able to make a decision about their body on that basis.

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Y2Impact wrote:

Mr. DEDEDE wrote:

Grace Izumi wrote:

Mr. DEDEDE wrote:

Well the thing is if we let underage girls get abortions on their own thatll lead the slippery slope questions of ppl asking why underaged girls cant do other things such as do porn or do drugs or whatever

so my answer is prolly not

1. Drugs are illegal. Minors committing sexual acts are illegal. Abortions are not. These aren't even moderately comparable.

2. Slippery slope arguments are by their nature, logical fallacies. You can't use them to argue points, since there are always two sides to them (Underage people shouldn't be able to do anything, etc, etc)

Still, as for the topic at hand...I don't know about the US, but in Australia, children are ruled to have sufficient knowledge of their body to start opting into procedures at 14 (or younger if the court agrees that it is appropriate). My answer would fall into that realm. A 14 year old is probably reasonable enough to what a baby would entail, and should be able to make a decision about their body on that basis.

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Abort thread

There are interesting dynamics that make abortion a very strange subject to me.  I don't believe at certain points that it's 'baby murder'.  At some point the embryo has a heartbeat, and I think that's within the first three weeks of the first month.  That's a living thing at that point, but before then it's simply genetic material.  Getting rid of it when it's just a cluster of cells and getting angry about it would be like calling masturbation genocide.  

That's beside the point though. A woman can do what she wants to do whenever she likes because it is her body.  My opinion on the matter is null and void.  The matter at hand is underage sexual activity.  In order for that to be legal in the states below the age of 16 or 18 (states may vary) you have to have parental consent.  I know this because I went to junior college with a scumbag who actually got his 14 year old girlfriend to have her parents legally sign off on their relationship.  Now, if parents are despicable to go through the law in order to have a consenting adult date their daughter conjugally, then the law should have the right to investigate on any underage abortion, and then after figuring out who the father in the matter is, turn over the right to terminate to the young female.  I've seen and heard crazy shit in my day, and I've known at least two girls who were molested by their fathers, and considering the circumstances of the situation, I'm not positive if the parents would have allowed the daughters to terminate, even if their lives depended on it.  There are some crazy, scary, fucked up individuals out there who don't need another young life within their possession to shape, mold, and abuse into the role of willful victim.

So, to cut one of my aimless rants short, there should be a legal investigation into the pregnancy and the minor should have the final say on the issue if the parents involved seem incompetent, and considering their underage daughter is getting pregnant, they're probably incompetent parents.

I think I am just going to go with Nah. Probably should work the same way with any other medical procedure at that age and whatever laws are in place that require consent etc from a parent. That being said there are always extreme circumstances etc. So I am just going to say nah...