I was thinking over what threads that could be done to help celebrate EAW's annual biggest season up to our biggest event, Pain For Pride, so I decided on this. Pretty simple how it goes: I'll post a Retro Reaction thread to each Pain For Pride in chronological order for everyone to give their thoughts on as if it had just happened. All you have to do is look over the show and give your reactions to it like you would any other FPV. So without further adieu...





Best Match - 


Worst Match -


Favorite Spot - 


Favorite Moment -


General Thoughts -


Rating -

LINK TO THE PAIN 4 PRIDE SCRIPT: http://eawfpvs3.webs.com/pain-for-pride-iv

Best Match - Sons of Mayhem vs Channel Zero vs Foreign Prophecy.

  

Best Match - HBB vs Extreme Enigma


Worst Match - Normally N/a but I might have to say Starr Stan vs Jason Cage, why spend that much time and quality on someone horrendously planned to be fired for months? It would be like if they made EOE vs KD some huge match when they'll get rid of him like the next week already planned a long time ago.


Favorite Spot - IDK guess people going through flaming tables a lot.


Favorite Moment - KD opens the casket to reveal a wax dummy of John Alloy.


General Thoughts - It was an outstanding FPV on a writting standpoint if there ever was one, but though I know this will upset certain people I'm still going to take points off due to a lot of cotroversy that came with this even(Some people were forced to lose their careers, the whole leaving thing that got things erased from history etc) and also that terrible immoral plot there was against Jacob that just leaves bad taste in my mouth. It was a really well written and built(excluding Jason) event though, good job on the writers.


Rating - 7.8. All my ratings have been on a PFP standpoint BTW, thought that went without saying but others keep saying it so yeah I'm saying it too.

Mikado Sekaiichi wrote:

Jaywalker wrote:

Best Match - HBB vs Extreme Enigma


Worst Match - Normally N/a but I might have to say Starr Stan vs Jason Cage, why spend that much time and quality on someone horrendously planned to be fired for months? It would be like if they made EOE vs KD some huge match when they'll get rid of him like the next week already planned a long time ago.


Favorite Spot - IDK guess people going through flaming tables a lot.


Favorite Moment - KD opens the casket to reveal a wax dummy of John Alloy.


General Thoughts - It was an outstanding FPV on a writting standpoint if there ever was one, but though I know this will upset certain people I'm still going to take points off due to a lot of cotroversy that came with this even(Some people were forced to lose their careers, the whole leaving thing that got things erased from history etc) and also that terrible immoral plot there was against Jacob that just leaves bad taste in my mouth. It was a really well written and built(excluding Jason) event though, good job on the writers.


Rating - 7.8. All my ratings have been on a PFP standpoint BTW, thought that went without saying but others keep saying it so yeah I'm saying it too.

  I'm sorry my friend I just got to call them like I see em, none of those things were really your fault and it was much better than PFP 3 don't be angreth.

Best Match - EE vs HBB, really underrated and unique match

Worst Match - CM Banks vs DEDEDE, while it wasn't bad or anything, it was soooo underwhelming for a PFP main event and the build that match had, shouldn't have gone on last.

Favorite Spot - Probably something in the CITV match

Favorite Moment - Ehh probably HRDO chokeslamming DEDEDE

General Thoughts: Oh boy this PFP, usually known as the Dark PFP. It was a phenomenal show in its own right and I won't take that away from it but mannn this one will always be looked at funny for Robbie retiring/walking out and then the following walk-out at MSM, that along with Jacob being fired ( why the FUCK was that match an hour long?? ) and DEDEDE ''retiring'' and going on longass rants in the chatroom the entire time shitting on anything EAW-related along with newbs like me, pop and hawk writing after this show, man. Plus I don't remember the crowd being good for this one, it'd pick up for some matches die for a few more and repeat and there being horrible complainments about KD winning over Alloy ( which I'm guilty of although I'm purely speaking from my then anti-KD mode, maybe he deserved to win idk ) and SQ winning CITV, which looking at who was in the match, i think he deserved.

Rating: 9/10 second best PFP imo

Best Match - EE-HBB, but my fav was CITV.


Worst Match - N/A


Favorite Spot - I think one of POP's CITV spots or mine


Favorite Moment - SQ winning the CITV. Not because it was "well-deserved" or anything like that, but I just loved the reaction the other CITV participants had. It's a trend that the losers of CITV get really pissed about the winner every year (I heard PFP 5 was different, though.)


General Thoughts - Great show. My first PFP and the crowd was just fantastic. For anyone who is new to EAW and wanted to see the crowd reaction, POP actually recorded some part of it.




Rating - 9/10

Best Match - Probably a tie between Robbie V vs. RRS and HBB vs. EE. Both very solid matches that were very well written.

Worst Match - Like Jay and Demon said, Jason Cage (me) vs. StarrStan. Why would you make that match so long just for someone to get fired? Makes no sense. Complete waste of time. Honestly though, that match was probably the best written match in my opinion.

Favorite Spot - People going through flaming tables.

Favorite Moment - SQ85 winning CITV.

General Thoughts - It was a very, very great show excluding Jason vs. Starr. Other than that, I really enjoyed the entire show.

Rating - 9/10

Allow me to defend Jason Cage vs StarrStan for the 200th time, because I never fail to be annoyed by people being completely baffled at why this match this match was so long only for Jason to be fired. I put a lot of time and effort into building that feud. I went out of my way to make it fun and genuinely well built with both characters (at least imo) over the course of a good while (at least from Reckless Wiring to P4P). There was NOTHING that was going to stop me from giving that feud the blow-off it deserved and Ronn knew that despite what was imminent. I wasn't going to let Jason fuck it up by getting himself fired because he didn't know how to shut his mouth and I wasn't going to let Ronn fuck it up by firing Jason because of said reason. Maybe Jason getting fired immediately after left a bad taste in people's mouths, but there was nothing I could do about it and I will continue to defend that match, because it deserves much better.

Eh, I wasn't bothered about him being fired after it, I never got why you made it an hour long, which to me seemed like 30-40 minutes way too long imo.

I said the match was very well written and I enjoyed it. Obviously, I was childish back then and regret doing what I did. I understand the whole feud thing, but still.

Mikado Sekaiichi wrote:

Allow me to defend Jason Cage vs StarrStan for the 200th time, because I never fail to be annoyed by people being completely baffled at why this match this match was so long only for Jason to be fired. I put a lot of time and effort into building that feud. I went out of my way to make it fun and genuinely well built with both characters (at least imo) over the course of a good while (at least from Reckless Wiring to P4P). There was NOTHING that was going to stop me from giving that feud the blow-off it deserved and Ronn knew that despite what was imminent. I wasn't going to let Jason fuck it up by getting himself fired because he didn't know how to shut his mouth and I wasn't going to let Ronn fuck it up by firing Jason because of said reason. Maybe Jason getting fired immediately after left a bad taste in people's mouths, but there was nothing I could do about it and I will continue to defend that match, because it deserves much better.

There's no reason me and Robbie should have had to suffer because of what Jacob did. Me and Jason had one of the best feuds on the card and it was an Elite Rules match between Angle/Benoit, it deserved the match even if it was a little long

I'm glad POP recorded it live.

I mean I completely agree with how the feud turned it. It was literally epic. Very well written and all the credit in the world goes to Robbie for it. I just hate how that ended up in me getting fired, and I'm sorry for being so dumb back then.

Bump, look at how they deleted Demon to make me seem like a loner.

Jaywalker wrote:

Bump, look at how they deleted Demon to make me seem like a loner.

If Demon's the only one agreeing with you, you're wrong by default anyway.