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Chucky P.
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| Subject: Feminism isn't about equality October 5th 2015, 4:02 am | |
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| | | Stephanie Matsuda Empire
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| Subject: Re: Feminism isn't about equality October 5th 2015, 4:30 am | |
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| | | MTM
Posts : 2369 Age : 25 Hailing From : San Diego, California Status : Welcome back to my world.
| Subject: Re: Feminism isn't about equality October 5th 2015, 5:09 am | |
| We already have gender equality, or we're at least close. People don't seem to understand that equality doesn't mean we all get treated the exact same way.
Equality: the state of being equal, especially in status, rights, or opportunities.
That's the official Oxford defintion. You'll notice how it says "equal" and not "the same". Men get certain things women don't and vice versa, like what you just posted. It's equal. Not the same, but still equal. |
| | | Grace Izumi
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| Subject: Re: Feminism isn't about equality October 5th 2015, 9:07 am | |
| That has nothing to do with feminism. I consider myself a feminist (although I don't overtly label myself as one), and yes. That is complete bullshit. Ultimately, the fact that this woman can do that, and if any men dare to complain about it they would be the ones demonised, is an example of inequality in society, but it isn't one manufactured by feminism.
That is mostly what third wave feminism is about- First wave dealt with basic human rights, second wave with basic economic rights, and now we are addressing current cultural standings. We are in a society where, for whatever reason, this is considered acceptable, but if you don't think there are at least a group of feminists who would stand up and say "This woman's actions are unacceptable, what she is doing amounts to sexual harrassment, and she is demeaning our cause to create equality", you really don't understand feminism at all. It's amazing how many people just see it as a single voice whining about men- The lack of unity in the movement makes people's common attempts to stereotype as ridiculous as calling all Europeans French, and quite frankly most of the branches of feminism criticise women just as much for contributing to their current cemented roles as nurturers who aren't treated to the same standard as men. The fact of the matter is most blue blooded feminists would see this image, and strongly criticise the woman. The fact that CS is using that image as a "Fuck feminism" one just shows how nobody seems to understand what that word even means anymore. |
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| Subject: Re: Feminism isn't about equality October 5th 2015, 9:37 am | |
| - Dr. Eddie Hawke wrote:
- That has nothing to do with feminism. I consider myself a feminist (although I don't overtly label myself as one), and yes. That is complete bullshit. Ultimately, the fact that this woman can do that, and if any men dare to complain about it they would be the ones demonised, is an example of inequality in society, but it isn't one manufactured by feminism.
That is mostly what third wave feminism is about- First wave dealt with basic human rights, second wave with basic economic rights, and now we are addressing current cultural standings. We are in a society where, for whatever reason, this is considered acceptable, but if you don't think there are at least a group of feminists who would stand up and say "This woman's actions are unacceptable, what she is doing amounts to sexual harrassment, and she is demeaning our cause to create equality", you really don't understand feminism at all. It's amazing how many people just see it as a single voice whining about men- The lack of unity in the movement makes people's common attempts to stereotype as ridiculous as calling all Europeans French, and quite frankly most of the branches of feminism criticise women just as much for contributing to their current cemented roles as nurturers who aren't treated to the same standard as men. The fact of the matter is most blue blooded feminists would see this image, and strongly criticise the woman. The fact that CS is using that image as a "Fuck feminism" one just shows how nobody seems to understand what that word even means anymore. Maybe if it so overtly geared toward women with a name like "Feminism." That's like starting a movement called Masculinism and claiming to be gender neutral. So does that make Tumblr like your vocal minority that gets most of the attention? ... DOES THAT MEAN TUMBLR TO FEMINISM IS JUST LIKE ISIS AND AL-QUAEDA ARE TO ISLAM!? THIS IS GROUND BREAKING SHIT!!! |
| | | #KimboLivesMatter
Posts : 2027 Age : 26 Hailing From : portland Status : I'M A FUNNY GUY
| Subject: Re: Feminism isn't about equality October 5th 2015, 12:07 pm | |
| sjw gi styles at it agian. smh gi. |
| | | Eclipse Diemos Dynasty
Posts : 1442 Age : 28 Status : Welcome to the Outcast Era
| Subject: Re: Feminism isn't about equality October 5th 2015, 12:15 pm | |
| - Vance Tybull wrote:
- Dr. Eddie Hawke wrote:
- That has nothing to do with feminism. I consider myself a feminist (although I don't overtly label myself as one), and yes. That is complete bullshit. Ultimately, the fact that this woman can do that, and if any men dare to complain about it they would be the ones demonised, is an example of inequality in society, but it isn't one manufactured by feminism.
That is mostly what third wave feminism is about- First wave dealt with basic human rights, second wave with basic economic rights, and now we are addressing current cultural standings. We are in a society where, for whatever reason, this is considered acceptable, but if you don't think there are at least a group of feminists who would stand up and say "This woman's actions are unacceptable, what she is doing amounts to sexual harrassment, and she is demeaning our cause to create equality", you really don't understand feminism at all. It's amazing how many people just see it as a single voice whining about men- The lack of unity in the movement makes people's common attempts to stereotype as ridiculous as calling all Europeans French, and quite frankly most of the branches of feminism criticise women just as much for contributing to their current cemented roles as nurturers who aren't treated to the same standard as men. The fact of the matter is most blue blooded feminists would see this image, and strongly criticise the woman. The fact that CS is using that image as a "Fuck feminism" one just shows how nobody seems to understand what that word even means anymore. Maybe if it so overtly geared toward women with a name like "Feminism." That's like starting a movement called Masculinism and claiming to be gender neutral.
So does that make Tumblr like your vocal minority that gets most of the attention? ... DOES THAT MEAN TUMBLR TO FEMINISM IS JUST LIKE ISIS AND AL-QUAEDA ARE TO ISLAM!? THIS IS GROUND BREAKING SHIT!!! Mm...I think you are missing the point a bit Tybull. Remember, the movements began to bring rights to women during the first and second wave. Naming it anything other than Feminism would have been sort of...dumb since it was geared towards females anyways. There is another word that some people like to use, it's called Humanist. As for the Tumblr statement, yes basically except we need to get something clear. Whenever people pull up stuff from Tumblr and be like "This is what all of tumblr is" they need to understand something. Tumblr doesn't have a front page like imgur or reddit. You can't just go onto tumblr and it's there. People have to follow those blogs to see posts like that. Too be fair, Tumblr does have a lot of people who fit the special snowflake kind of generation, but they also have a lot of people who are able to supply smart feedback and comments. It's more than I can say about facebook and twitter, or even youtubes god awful comment system. Tumblr has groups in it that demonize everything, but that's just humanity. As for the post above and my opinion on it, it's the same as Eddie Hawks. People have taken the true definition of Feminism and destroyed it, because a very vocal minority have ruined it. Just the same with me and the words Rape and Racist. A very vocal minority destroyed their true definition. I also consider myself, what would be akin to, a feminist but I prefer the term Humanist. A person that believes that everyone, regardless of Race, Gender, or Sexual Orientation, should be able to get the same rights as others within physical and legal reasons. This includes hiring, payment, benefits, whatever. I'm not here to start an argument and I'm not here to say anyone here was wrong. These are just my opinions. |
| | | LVCIAN
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| Subject: Re: Feminism isn't about equality October 5th 2015, 12:29 pm | |
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| | | #KimboLivesMatter
Posts : 2027 Age : 26 Hailing From : portland Status : I'M A FUNNY GUY
| Subject: Re: Feminism isn't about equality October 5th 2015, 12:55 pm | |
| modern feminism has no use imo. all the "problems" modern feminists face are just personal problems. Because the wage gap isn't real so it isn't really needed, and they don't have really have anything to do.
sadly too many feminists call themselves that but aren't for equality. fuck even my mother gets upset when my girlfriend, who is an egalitarian, says that she isn't a feminist.
fuck modern feminism. fuck. its just a bunch of elitist assholes inside an echo chamber because they'll have you fucking arrested because you disagree with them.
fuck you gi styles you sjw cuck. |
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| Subject: Re: Feminism isn't about equality October 5th 2015, 7:09 pm | |
| Then why not just start calling this humanism then? Seems like it would help the negative connotation placed on it. |
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